The future of the industry
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The B717 will have a lower CASM then any 76 seater. For the rock bottom price that the B717s were acquired for it'll be difficult to not make $$$ with them. Delta is still making money with the DC9-50. It has less seats then the B717 & is much less fuel efficient.
I'm not sure why you think SW operates the B717 any different then Delta will. I jump seated on a AirTran B717 just a few months ago, & it wasn't a quick turn at all.
I'm not sure why you think SW operates the B717 any different then Delta will. I jump seated on a AirTran B717 just a few months ago, & it wasn't a quick turn at all.
Also, an argument can be made in regards the ONE flight you took, but I don't think it adds an relevance to the OP's original question. In trying to stick to the original question, my posts were meant to offer an outside view of the U.S. airline industry as I see it living as an expat.
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The few B717 that DL will be acquiring is not enough to put a dent to reduce regional airline flying. Also, I could be wrong, but DL will be leasing the B717. Its easy to make a boat load of money when you don't have to make lease payments.
Also, an argument can be made in regards the ONE flight you took, but I don't think it adds an relevance to the OP's original question. In trying to stick to the original question, my posts were meant to offer an outside view of the U.S. airline industry as I see it living as an expat.
Also, an argument can be made in regards the ONE flight you took, but I don't think it adds an relevance to the OP's original question. In trying to stick to the original question, my posts were meant to offer an outside view of the U.S. airline industry as I see it living as an expat.
Also, SWA is essentially paying DL to take the B717 off their hands. They were acquired for substantially less then the cost of a new CRJ900/EMB175. They'll be paid for in a short seven years.
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The B717 will have a lower CASM then any 76 seater. For the rock bottom price that the B717s were acquired for it'll be difficult to not make $$$ with them. Delta is still making money with the DC9-50. It has less seats then the B717 & is much less fuel efficient.
I'm not sure why you think SW operates the B717 any different then Delta will. I jump seated on a AirTran B717 just a few months ago, & it wasn't a quick turn at all.
I'm not sure why you think SW operates the B717 any different then Delta will. I jump seated on a AirTran B717 just a few months ago, & it wasn't a quick turn at all.
#94
The B717 will have a lower CASM then any 76 seater. For the rock bottom price that the B717s were acquired for it'll be difficult to not make $$$ with them. Delta is still making money with the DC9-50. It has less seats then the B717 & is much less fuel efficient.
I'm not sure why you think SW operates the B717 any different then Delta will. I jump seated on a AirTran B717 just a few months ago, & it wasn't a quick turn at all.
I'm not sure why you think SW operates the B717 any different then Delta will. I jump seated on a AirTran B717 just a few months ago, & it wasn't a quick turn at all.
#95
The few B717 that DL will be acquiring is not enough to put a dent to reduce regional airline flying. Also, I could be wrong, but DL will be leasing the B717. Its easy to make a boat load of money when you don't have to make lease payments.
Also, an argument can be made in regards the ONE flight you took, but I don't think it adds an relevance to the OP's original question. In trying to stick to the original question, my posts were meant to offer an outside view of the U.S. airline industry as I see it living as an expat.
Also, an argument can be made in regards the ONE flight you took, but I don't think it adds an relevance to the OP's original question. In trying to stick to the original question, my posts were meant to offer an outside view of the U.S. airline industry as I see it living as an expat.
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Question for the smart responsible people:
If one can't get a job stateside to pay the bills because the only options are $22 an hour with the regionals, or one could go overseas and make a responsible income why would someone hate you for wanting to be responsible and support your family??????????????????????? This whole discussion about expats flying is flat out irritating.......How can you hate someone for wanting to be responsible and not live on unemployment? Seriously????? Maybe those that have issues with this should look in the mirror.......and I'll go a step further, I guess this is where we're going, to an industry of leaches that live off the government until that perfect job comes along rather than taking what we can get overseas.........this whole discussion makes me sick as an American.........normal, old school, American's do what they can to support their family through hard work....so here's a toast to those that decide to go overseas for a flying job because nothing is available stateside rather than living off the government.......I guess it's the generation that is arriving....the takers.......give me a fricken break.......
If one can't get a job stateside to pay the bills because the only options are $22 an hour with the regionals, or one could go overseas and make a responsible income why would someone hate you for wanting to be responsible and support your family??????????????????????? This whole discussion about expats flying is flat out irritating.......How can you hate someone for wanting to be responsible and not live on unemployment? Seriously????? Maybe those that have issues with this should look in the mirror.......and I'll go a step further, I guess this is where we're going, to an industry of leaches that live off the government until that perfect job comes along rather than taking what we can get overseas.........this whole discussion makes me sick as an American.........normal, old school, American's do what they can to support their family through hard work....so here's a toast to those that decide to go overseas for a flying job because nothing is available stateside rather than living off the government.......I guess it's the generation that is arriving....the takers.......give me a fricken break.......
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But I doubt the 12 extra seats makes up for the difference in fuel burn.
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Question for the smart responsible people:
If one can't get a job stateside to pay the bills because the only options are $22 an hour with the regionals, or one could go overseas and make a responsible income why would someone hate you for wanting to be responsible and support your family??????????????????????? This whole discussion about expats flying is flat out irritating.......How can you hate someone for wanting to be responsible and not live on unemployment? Seriously????? Maybe those that have issues with this should look in the mirror.......and I'll go a step further, I guess this is where we're going, to an industry of leaches that live off the government until that perfect job comes along rather than taking what we can get overseas.........this whole discussion makes me sick as an American.........normal, old school, American's do what they can to support their family through hard work....so here's a toast to those that decide to go overseas for a flying job because nothing is available stateside rather than living off the government.......I guess it's the generation that is arriving....the takers.......give me a fricken break.......
If one can't get a job stateside to pay the bills because the only options are $22 an hour with the regionals, or one could go overseas and make a responsible income why would someone hate you for wanting to be responsible and support your family??????????????????????? This whole discussion about expats flying is flat out irritating.......How can you hate someone for wanting to be responsible and not live on unemployment? Seriously????? Maybe those that have issues with this should look in the mirror.......and I'll go a step further, I guess this is where we're going, to an industry of leaches that live off the government until that perfect job comes along rather than taking what we can get overseas.........this whole discussion makes me sick as an American.........normal, old school, American's do what they can to support their family through hard work....so here's a toast to those that decide to go overseas for a flying job because nothing is available stateside rather than living off the government.......I guess it's the generation that is arriving....the takers.......give me a fricken break.......
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