Can't answer the question, can you?


TP

 

It takes some very flawed reasoning to blame well qualified pilots for going where the good employment opportunities are. There is no brotherhood in ALPA or in the USA in general. Brotherhood means looking out for your fellow industry professionals. This is something the ALPA has proven time and again to be either uninterested or unable to provide.

 

As far as route networks and international flying among the US carriers go I would love to see them play the ME carriers at their own game. The fact EK wants to start going across the Atlantic via the UK is a little scary for those carriers on those routes. United, Delta, American need to get in first and start servicing those cities. Birmingham, UK has a population of almost 3.7 million people, Manchester has a population of almost 2.7million. It takes 2-3 hours to drive to London from Birmingham, and 4 hours from Manchester. Emirates seems to have been punching the numbers and sees an opportunity - I would love the US carriers to do the same. I'd also love to see more routes into Asia with the massive population explosion there and more people entering the middle class. Unfortunately, until management can recognize an opportunity and make it happen then other airlines will be more than willing to step in. Get mad at lost market opportunities, not at your fellow pilots.

 

Lol.......strategic thinking huh? Ya great strategic thinkers like yourself have devised great solutions throughout history, like burning witches, holocaust, white hoods and burning crosses.

Dude do you know what the difference between you and an American working in the Middle East? ......you goth f%#%g lucky.

Now goto bed and let the adults carry on a more constructive conversation.

 

That's because Honda, Toyota, Nissan, BMW, etc are a quality product. Saturn & Pontiac, and most Ford / GM products are garbage. You can wave the American flag all you want but at the end of the day people want value for money.

My BMW was built in South Carolina. The P.O.S. Ford I used to drive was built in Canada.

 

The future of the industry? Regionals flying E190's within 5 years and taking over mainline domestic routes. Mainline flying mostly international in widebodies, Age 65 rule bumped up to age 67, regional pilots taking more concessions because "Jets R Us" starts operations and takes American Eagles flying. Eagle pilots get hired at "Jets R Us", start all over again on year 1 pay, and get bashed by everyone on this board for supporting the race to the bottom!

Bring on the name calling, you know I'm right!

 

You want to neutralize the threat? Start right here...

Airline Pilot Central - Regional

You should be so lucky to have EK or EY package in the US. But US airline pilots are no longer the proud professional group they once were. Instead, they are a bunch of Stockholm-syndrome-no-balls-blame-everyone-but-themselves bunch who don't give a flying f#%k about their legacy or what they leave behind. It's no wonder executive level compensation shot through the roof over the past decade... the management clearly has their act together. None of you chest-thumpers on here were willing to shut it all down when the pensions and scope were under attack. Quite the opposite, you folded like a house of cards, so it became totally obvious that NOTHING is sacred anymore, and everything was ripe for the taking...

To answer your question, UAW wouldn't accept ALPA's idiotic end-all-be-all seniority system tying you or your compensation or your experience to one airline. Would UAW be OK with an autoworker making $95/hour and once that plant shuts down move to another making $20/hour because all of a sudden, you're an apprentice again just because you change plants?! Bullsh*t! NO OTHER UNION TREATS THEIR MEMBERS LIKE THIS! NOT ONE!

Instead of worrying about overseas airlines, better pay attention to what's going on at home. Your enemy is right here at home...

 

Yeah, so many domestic issues to clean up before we start bashing the foreign guys. Shoot, the domestic problems are what cause American pilots to become expat pilots (generally.)

 

If we could make the USA the most desirable place to work as an airline pilot in terms of pay/benefits/qol then there would be a giant sucking sound as all the expats came home to roost. Those foreign carriers might have trouble staffing their own flights...

 

Unfortunately I think you're closer to the bullseye than people want to admit.