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Old 09-01-2013 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by WARich
Or we could just get back to talking about the movement at JB if any. Speaking of, how long can one expect to be on reserve?
September is my fifth full month off IOE, and I held a line in August. I got kicked back to reserve in September, but should be a regular line holder by the holidays.

Right now, BOS 190 is probably the quickest way to a line, with JFK 190 and 320 not far behind.
Old 09-01-2013 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by usmc-sgt
Are we just about ready to close this thread and let it die?

Ive been reading it for a while and it has digressed to essentially 2-4 folks with differing opinions going back and forth. Neither will see the others side.

Might be a better candidate for a PM instead of this waste of a thread? Will any of you miss it?

I think it is very dead.
Old 09-01-2013 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by alvrb211
As long as the other Majors are hiring, JetBlue will continue to lose Pilots. A lot of guys want to leave JB and should be in with a very good chance. This will help new guys move along.


Don't expect to see much growth but the industry defying attrition will be significant.


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Much growth? attrition sure but there is growth, don't just make stuff up.
We are growing I think only spirit is growing faster....
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Originally Posted by dogismycopilot
September is my fifth full month off IOE, and I held a line in August. I got kicked back to reserve in September, but should be a regular line holder by the holidays.

Right now, BOS 190 is probably the quickest way to a line, with JFK 190 and 320 not far behind.
Make no mistake, your best indicator of movement is the hiring at other Majors. Many have already left or are waiting on class dates elsewhere. If the hiring continues at the Majors, you will move up. I think hundreds are going to leave so you should be in good shape.


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Old 09-01-2013 | 07:56 AM
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So can someone post some bullets on the reasons why dudes are leaving JB?
Old 09-01-2013 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by pilotpayne
Much growth? attrition sure but there is growth, don't just make stuff up.
We are growing I think only spirit is growing faster....

Do you have the year over year growth ASM's handy?


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Old 09-01-2013 | 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by WARich
So can someone post some bullets on the reasons why dudes are leaving JB?

Pilots have been leaving JB for years dude. And, in large numbers.


But, we are "not supposed" to cite the reasons why because it upsets the "believers".

If you don't fit the "culture" you are seen as one who doesn't align himself with JB's model.


In other words, if you don't like below average compensation all across the board, coupled with zero protections, you're not a good fit.


Onslaught and rationalizations from Bluejuicers coming in 3....2....1



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Originally Posted by alvrb211
Pilots have been leaving JB for years dude. And, in large numbers.


But, we are "not supposed" to cite the reasons why because it upsets the "believers".

If you don't fit the "culture" you are seen as one who doesn't align himself with JB's model.


In other words, if you don't like below average compensation all across the board, coupled with zero protections, you're not a good fit.


Onslaught and rationalizations from Bluejuicers coming in 3....2....1



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So once again, what are the reasons pilots are leaving JB? Please no *itch session, just straight facts. And I don't want to hear this pay and non-industry standard bs you guys have been moaning about for the last 40 pages........besides that, why are dudes leaving? (unless that's the only reason I guess)
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Originally Posted by WARich
So once again, what are the reasons pilots are leaving JB? Please no *itch session, just straight facts. And I don't want to hear this pay and non-industry standard bs you guys have been moaning about for the last 40 pages........besides that, why are dudes leaving? (unless that's the only reason I guess)
Not trying to be snarky. If you've read 40 pages and do not understand then you are definitely JetBlue material. You don't want to hear complaints about JB but want the reasons why people are leaving JB? They are one in the same.
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Originally Posted by WARich
So once again, what are the reasons pilots are leaving JB? Please no *itch session, just straight facts. And I don't want to hear this pay and non-industry standard bs you guys have been moaning about for the last 40 pages........besides that, why are dudes leaving? (unless that's the only reason I guess)

It's simple! Other carriers compensate much higher!

Nothing motivates people like money!


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