View Poll Results: Would AA's lower 1st yr pay keep you away?
Yes, I'd go to DL/UA before AA to make more my first year
73
42.94%
No, all 3 airlines are now close enough in careers that it wouldn't matter
97
57.06%
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Would AA's lower 1st year pay keep you away?
11-13-2013 | 04:16 PM
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Would AA's lower 1st year pay keep you away?
In response to another thread, I'd like to poll everyone here: AA's 1st year pay is $40/hr, less than DL and UA who are in the $60s. Would that keep you away from AA if you had offers from all 3?
11-13-2013 | 04:21 PM
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Also, keep in mind that AA will most likely come up to DL/UA pay with the new JCBA, just like DL and UA did after exiting BK and merging.
Poll takes into consideration the fact that all 3 airlines are very similar with regards to retirements, career choices, flying, etc.
Poll takes into consideration the fact that all 3 airlines are very similar with regards to retirements, career choices, flying, etc.
11-13-2013 | 04:41 PM
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I usually tell people there is no way to give advice on what carrier to choose, because there are too many variables to take into account, over the length of a career, so even attrition is no predictor of the quality of a craeer.
That being said, if your personal calculations tell you it's smartest to go to UsAmerican, but you're spending more than about a minute dwelling on first year pay, then there is something seriously flawed with your logic.
Or you're over 60.
That being said, if your personal calculations tell you it's smartest to go to UsAmerican, but you're spending more than about a minute dwelling on first year pay, then there is something seriously flawed with your logic.
Or you're over 60.
11-13-2013 | 05:42 PM
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I would take an offer of employment from any of those three airlines, but would definitely choose DL/UA for that very reason. I have a wife and multiple young kids. Putting food on the table for that first year would be tough with AA. You can criticize all you want for failing to plan financially, etc, but I choose to have my wife stay at home, and that wouldn't be a possiblity with first year AA pay. Sure, a year isn't that long, but the debt that I would incur would last a lot longer than that.
I think it is only a matter of time before they are going to have to bump that first year pay up to match their competitors. It is a buyers (hirers) market right now, but in a couple of years, I suspect that will not be the case.
I think it is only a matter of time before they are going to have to bump that first year pay up to match their competitors. It is a buyers (hirers) market right now, but in a couple of years, I suspect that will not be the case.
11-13-2013 | 07:27 PM
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So, one hired today would be at the 65% percentile roughly a decade from now. Assuming one upgrades at the 50% mark...you're still not making Captain within 10 years.
*I'm sure there will be some growth, medicals and early retirees...
11-13-2013 | 07:35 PM
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And it's not like 2nd year was some stellar amount EITHER. DAL/FedEx/SW were better, but not really that much better. Pretty substantial cut regardless if coming from RJ CA or mil O-3/O-4 rate.
So to answer the poll, NO, it wouldn't stop me.
11-13-2013 | 07:44 PM
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Just depends on who calls you first, IMO. And if you have a choice, which culture you would prefer to be a part of.
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