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Old 02-09-2014, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy View Post
Of course I'm not hoping for that kind of growth. But by definition I do not see anything about a level playing field or being fair in what capitalism is. It is a cutthroat business in which another will try and do the same as you do but for less overall costs. Their hope will be to profit and over time push you out of business. Anyway, do we really have a right to tell foreigners how they should or shouldn't run their business asides from the obvious FAA safety aspect? If their airline is approved by the FAA for flights into the US, then what legal grounds do we have to stop them? If they are US owned in some way then that changes some things, but if it is 100% foreign, who are we to say what they can charge for tickets or what they pay their crews? The last point you bring up is giving a foreign company advantages? What do you mean by giving them an advantage? If by advantage we are simply allowing to fly to the US, then that really isn't an advantage. An advantage would be giving them free slots at airports or discounts in landing fees, etc.
If they aren't approved, then they aren't approved.


Also, while they play the unrestricted may the best company win capitalist card, they should have no problem with us putting a 777 on every flight they do full of dollar fares and free cargo, right? We could easilly afford to eat the losses and still be profitable well into the billions. Yet I'm betting they would squeal "predatory pricing" to their little world courts, seeking government protection in the name of "level playing fields" while Boeing lobbys DC to make us stop to protect their end of the so called capitalist market.

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Old 02-09-2014, 10:37 AM
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We need to make sure no one who works there is ever hired at a US carrier. Ever.
Sure. How you gonna do that? Will you then include M R Rats/Jihadi and all the Asian airline contract jobs too?
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Old 02-09-2014, 10:40 AM
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Signed. Lots of threats to the profession right now & on the low-end side ALPA has a lot of culpability (9E/PSA/XJT/EGL concessionary tsunami).... but they're 100% correct on this one.
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Old 02-09-2014, 10:53 AM
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If they aren't approved, then they aren't approved.


Also, while they play the unrestricted may the best company win capitalist card, they should have no problem with us putting a 777 on every flight they do full of dollar fares and free cargo, right? We could easilly afford to eat the losses and still be profitable well into the billions. Yet I'm betting they would squeal "predatory pricing" to their little world courts, seeking government protection in the name of "level playing fields" while Boeing lobbys DC to make us stop to protect their end of the so called capitalist market.
You have a good point and I agree with you. They definitely would scream bloody murder they other way around. I do want our US jobs protected, but IMO the current administration (or even future ones with current candidates) aren't going to do anything to protect us. In the end money talks and those foreign companies have lots that they can spend to lobby and buy our politicians.

It's like that scene from 'Eraser' when Arnold is explaining to an Italian boss "There's a major arms deal going down. A U.S. contractor's selling out to international terrorists." Response by the other guy, "Mr. 60 Minutes. Tell me something I don't know."

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Old 02-09-2014, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by TenYearsGone View Post
I wonder what kind of pilot will apply for this job?

1) A desperate one, one that is stuck at a low paying regional?

2) One with lots of skeletons in the closet?

3) One that really wants to fly a 787?

Truly amazing how our industry is slowly but surely going the way of the cruising world. I hope all of these petitions and calls to actions will be heard.

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I hate to say it but isn't this what capitalism is all about?

"Capitalism is an economic system in which trade, industry and the means of production are controlled by private owners with the goal of making profits in a market economy."

Notice it says nothing about playing fair or level field. The owners of Norwegian are out to make a profit and seem to have a scheme going forward.
I was wondering when you would chime in

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I was wondering when you would chime in

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Old 02-09-2014, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy View Post
I hate to say it but isn't this what capitalism is all about?

"Capitalism is an economic system in which trade, industry and the means of production are controlled by private owners with the goal of making profits in a market economy."

Notice it says nothing about playing fair or level field. The owners of Norwegian are out to make a profit and seem to have a scheme going forward.
So I guess we could say that Lorenzo is just a capitalist!
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We are over 5100 signatures in less than a week. Keep putting the word out to your friends and family. This isn't a pilot only thing, anyone can sign the petition.
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Old 02-11-2014, 10:27 AM
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Signed it.
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