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Old 03-05-2014 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by The Juice
The Wright Amendment is a insane.

It was a law in the 70s to help grow the new airport, DFW airport, while reducing congestion at Love. DFW was built because the current airports in Dallas and FT Worth were over operating capacity.

So 30 years later DFW is one of the busiest airports in the world. And we still have this law limiting flights at Love and allowing AA and advantage.

AA knows it was a crap advantage, that's why they have spend millions to lobby to keep it. Finally it's gone.
Not exactly. ALL airlines, and both cities signed an agreement in the 60s to move ALL airline operations to DFW when it was completed, before SWA was even born. SWA sued and won in the US Supreme Court the right to stay at Love mainly because they never signed the agreement and were an intrastate provider, and thus outside the scope of the CAB. But that changed after deregulation when SWA wanted to expand to destinations outside of TX (from Love). That's when DFW, the airlines, and Ft. Worth got ****ed. The result was the Wright Amendment of '79. Worked pretty darn well for 30+ years. A crap advantage? A crap advantage was SWA getting to stay at Love while eveyone else couldn't even operate there (74-79). Probably the only reason they survived the 70s...well that and their HAWT FA's

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Old 03-05-2014 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by jsled
Not exactly. ALL airlines, and both cities signed an agreement in the 60s to move ALL airline operations to DFW when it was completed, before SWA was even born. SWA sued and won in the US Supreme Court the right to stay at Love mainly because they never signed the agreement and were an intrastate provider, and thus outside the scope of the CAB. But that changed after deregulation when SWA wanted to expand to destinations outside of TX (from Love). That's when DFW, the airlines, and Ft. Worth got ****ed. The result was the Wright Amendment of '79. Worked pretty darn well for 30+ years. A crap advantage? A crap advantage was SWA getting to stay at Love while eveyone else couldn't even operate there (74-79). Probably the only reason they survived the 70s...well that and their HAWT FA's

JMHO
Southwest getting special treatment that gives them an advantage over all the other airlines?

Is anyone surprised?
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Old 03-05-2014 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
SWA will fry VA like a box of kittens.
Like United did out of EWR? All they did and continue to do is hurt themselves by dumping capacity. A good thing about VX operating these flights into ORD, DCA, and LGA is that they are slot restricted so SWA can't just dump capacity. Plus, VX and SW are a different brand. SW does not have a first class and caters to a different customer base than VX does. I think SW and VX would do very well out of DAL.

Plus, this is good news for you as a Delta Air Lines pilot. If Delta gets the DAL gates, they plan on running RJs with non-Delta Air Lines pilots operating on those routes. In fact Delta is already selling DAL-LGA tickets even though they have not gotten the gates. E170s/E175s.
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Old 03-05-2014 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Like United did out of EWR? All they did and continue to do is hurt themselves by dumping capacity. A good thing about VX operating these flights into ORD, DCA, and LGA is that they are slot restricted so SWA can't just dump capacity. Plus, VX and SW are a different brand. SW does not have a first class and caters to a different customer base than VX does. I think SW and VX would do very well out of DAL.

Plus, this is good news for you as a Delta Air Lines pilot. If Delta gets the DAL gates, they plan on running RJs with non-Delta Air Lines pilots operating on those routes. In fact Delta is already selling DAL-LGA tickets even though they have not gotten the gates. E170s/E175s.
Delta will eventually fly those DAL-LGA routes, plus many more, with 717's as we get more airframes. SWA will pay to modify former AT metal to compete against themselves and finally offer an alternative to the SWA cattle call out of LUV.

I LUV it...

(and yes, Shyguy..I took notice of your shot at delta pilots, but chose to ignore it. I don't know why you have such a hard-on for delta guys, but good luck working that out)

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Old 03-05-2014 | 03:55 PM
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Virgin is a force not to be underestimated. SWA would be wise to not pretend to be bulletproof.
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Old 03-05-2014 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by CGfalconHerc
Delta will eventually fly those DAL-LGA routes, plus many more, with 717's as we get more airframes. SWA will pay to modify former AT metal to compete against themselves and finally offer an alternative to the SWA cattle call out of LUV.

I LUV it...
Only if Delta gets the gates, which the DOJ has stated will not happen.
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Old 03-05-2014 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by shoelu
Only if Delta gets the gates, which the DOJ has stated will not happen.
Wow..the mighty SWA hiding behind the skirt of the DOJ..

How the mighty have fallen...

Take it to 'em, VX..!

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Old 03-05-2014 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by shoelu
Only if Delta gets the gates, which the DOJ has stated will not happen.

Afraid of real competition? Everywhere you have tried to take market share from us, you have been beaten back. You are a very normal airline, with very normal problems, and a limited ability to respond.
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Old 03-05-2014 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Afraid of real competition?
Not afraid of competition simply stating that the DOJ has stipulated that competition will not be from Delta. What part is not getting through?
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Old 03-05-2014 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by shoelu
Not afraid of competition simply stating that the DOJ has stipulated that competition will not be from Delta. What part is not getting through?
This is the same DOJ that Eric Holder runs.....right?

Got it.
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