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03-06-2014 | 07:07 AM

#51

CanoePilot

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Originally Posted by Packrat

I wouldn't worry about it too much. VX has a history to going into markets with a big splash and leaving 6 months later with their tail between their legs.

This isn't some outstation, they want to make a mini hub out of this. If VX fails this could be the end for them.

03-06-2014 | 07:11 AM

#52

RJtrashPilot

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From: ELACS, FACs and SECs. Who doesn't love 'em?

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Originally Posted by CanoePilot

This isn't some outstation, they want to make a mini hub out of this. If VX fails this could be the end for them.

How, exactly, would you know this? Do you have a seat on the board?

03-06-2014 | 07:11 AM

#53

JoeyMeatballs

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Originally Posted by Bugaboo

Sugarcoat how you like but Spirit is a trash product. No shame in it and your company makes a lot of money doing things how they do.
The job of getting the airplane from A-B is the same from a pilots perspective but it is a whole different story for the passengers.

It's not a "trash" product it's a minimalist, basic product maybe, but not trash.

03-06-2014 | 07:13 AM

#54

ShyGuy

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Packrat

I wouldn't worry about it too much. VX has a history to going into markets with a big splash and leaving 6 months later with their tail between their legs.

Only SNA and YYZ. What history?

03-06-2014 | 07:16 AM

#55

flyprdu

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CanoePilot

This isn't some outstation, they want to make a mini hub out of this. If VX fails this could be the end for them.

I wonder if DC is letting his hometown bias affect this decision to go into Love Field. Because you're right, they got a gift with the slots and they are betting it all on DAL.

I hope those SMU boys know what they are doing.

03-06-2014 | 07:19 AM

#56

tsquare

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Packrat

I wouldn't worry about it too much. VX has a history to going into markets with a big splash and leaving 6 months later with their tail between their legs.

What airline hasn't done that? While "leaving with one's tail between their legs" might make for a sensational argument in your eyes, significant pullbacks in a market you thought you would take over is essentially the same thing just not as dramatic.

03-06-2014 | 07:20 AM

#57

tsquare

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Originally Posted by flyprdu

Maybe SWA will buy them and get the gates back. Then they could pay us to take those airplanes off their hands.

bwaaaaa haaaaaa haaaaaa

03-06-2014 | 07:50 AM

#58

atooraya

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Originally Posted by RJtrashPilot

How, exactly, would you know this? Do you have a seat on the board?

He's an airline pilot. Get on board already, we know EVERYTHING that's good for every airline and our opinions are subpar to none.

03-06-2014 | 08:18 AM

#59

ThrustMonkey

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Originally Posted by tsquare

Interesting that when DAL wants to come in and compete, you refer to it as "hubristic". Make no mistake, if we got those gates, we WOULD use them, and we WOULD make money. SWA on the other hand, buys Airtran, and talks how they are gonna come in and take Atlanta. What's their flight count now? Hint: A LOT less than it was at the time of the merger. Clark Howard is on a ventilator because of it.

The problem is that SWA is still viewed as a LCC by those in the position to control those gates, and for that I tip my hat to SWA management. It still doesn't change the fact that wherever we have gone head to head, we will beat them....

Why is that interesting? Selling tickets already for routes you don't yet have from gates that the DOJ has already said you'll be ineligible to bid for is pretty ballsy. Plain and simple. DAL won't be getting those gates unless something shady goes down.