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clunkerdrv 07-13-2014 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by Vegaspilot (Post 1683191)
Two in a row, just for good measure.

Hahaha no way!!! 2 already today??

Sr. Barco 07-13-2014 09:16 AM

Allegiant sounds like Trans States of the mid 90's. It was so bad and the (true) stories seemingly so outrageous I had to stop telling outsiders. After a while I realized people flat out didn't believe me. To someone who hasn't worked for a company like this they think you are embellishing, whining, disgruntled or just insane. Sadly pilots will go to G4 and then realize the info here is spot on. What you need to realize is a company like this is a VERY dangerous place to work. The risks are failed checkrides, FAA certificate action or worse. From a long term career point of view it's not worth the risk. On your dream job interview they will ask you to explain said deficiencies and they won't believe any of your "outrageous" stories that seem to shift blame away from you.

Like the original poster said, you have been warned.

Carl Spackler 07-13-2014 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by Sr. Barco (Post 1683201)
Allegiant sounds like Trans States of the mid 90's. It was so bad and the (true) stories seemingly so outrageous I had to stop telling outsiders. After a while I realized people flat out didn't believe me. To someone who hasn't worked for a company like this they think you are embellishing, whining, disgruntled or just insane. Sadly pilots will go to G4 and then realize the info here is spot on. What you need to realize is a company like this is a VERY dangerous place to work. The risks are failed checkrides, FAA certificate action or worse. From a long term career point of view it's not worth the risk. On your dream job interview they will ask you to explain said deficiencies and they won't believe any of your "outrageous" stories that seem to shift blame away from you.

Like the original poster said, you have been warned.

This is the most important point I see. No matter where you fly, certificate action will likely end any chance for a top tier aviation job at either a Major or corporate. Further, a failed checkride can be done to you on purpose to make you unmarketable...thus making you a "loyal" Allegiant lifer.

Nothing is more important than your certificate, your medical, and your professional record. For those that stay, please be careful. I'd like to see all of you guys here at the Borg.

Carl

JoeyMeatballs 07-13-2014 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by labbats (Post 1682879)
We've hired some safety people. Problem is that when you tell them a problem, they tell it to someone who doesn't care and doesn't want to change. It stops there.

Good example is yet another pseudo engine failure last week on the airbus. It hit a bird in the engine and air returned. They replaced two blades and sent it back out full of passengers without test running it. It took off and had to declare an emergency and land one engine idle because it was so out of whack. When told that they should have balanced it and then tested it they replied that it wasn't required. End of story.

There's dozens of stories like this where something could be fixed with common sense but is blocked by someone up high in dispatch or stations or maintenance who says "it isn't required so we won't do it".

Our work rules are the FARs. Why would things be any different when it comes to safety? Unless it's mandated they must do it they don't.

maybe the CA should have stepped up? I mean, not for anything but who the hell Takes off in an airplane that just had two blades replaced without at least a runup?

if the crew feared company discipline, well maybe a Union is looooooooooooooong overdue?

AZbound 07-13-2014 10:35 AM

The air returns that the Airbus had happened over the course of 2 days, with 2 different crews.

clunkerdrv 07-13-2014 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs (Post 1683251)
maybe the CA should have stepped up? I mean, not for anything but who the hell Takes off in an airplane that just had two blades replaced without at least a runup?

if the crew feared company discipline, well maybe a Union is looooooooooooooong overdue?

The union (Teamsters) is here. Unfortunately we have to go through the RLA steps before we can get "self help" or whatever you call it ;)

Trust me, we are all fired up and ready to roll, just waiting on the word...

Spudhauler 07-13-2014 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by Packrat (Post 1682628)
Guess what, square? There's a whole world of aviation out there that you have no clue about going directly from the Air Force to the Borg. To say you know all about the Regionals because you lowered yourself to actually talk to a Regional pilot (only because YOU couldn't figure out how to get a FedEx jumpseat) is like Sissy Spacek testifying before Congress on a Farm Bill because she "played a farm wife" in a movie.

We're all very impressed with your Godlike ability to fly a 767, but in the end it doesn't make you an astronaut, a fighter pilot, a helicopter pilot, a fire tanker pilot OR a young regional stud who wants to be just like (horrors!) you.

Dude, I'm pretty sure the reason you haven't made it to a major isn't because you're from a regional, but your lousy attitude. Yeah, I made it, but I pumped gas, instructed, flew cancelled checks, and did the regional thing for five years, so I understand the trials and tribulations of the industry. I've flown with lots of military and civilian pilots, and the overwhelming majority are good people. I hope you end up where you want to be, but you'll need a serious attitude adjustment to make it happen, IMO.

DustyRoads 07-13-2014 06:08 PM

Allegiant seems like an overgrown 135 operation.

clunkerdrv 07-13-2014 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by DustyRoads (Post 1683561)
Allegiant seems like an overgrown 135 operation.


More like an old mom n pop flight school tearing at the seams........:D

Jetlife 07-13-2014 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by DustyRoads (Post 1683561)
Allegiant seems like an overgrown 135 operation.

What is funny, is that a lot of 135 guys would consider Allegiant "making it" which is very sad.


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