SWA no longer requires 737 type rating
#101
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So how do you get to the full 415 limit if the company stops matching because you've hit your annual contribution limit? i.e. your personal limit is $18K for 2015. Assuming the SWA only matches what you put in, that would stop you at $36K vice the full $53K... thus how do you exceed the 415 limit?
If the pilot’s contribution reaches the “402(g) limit” imposed by the Internal Revenue Service, the Company will continue to contribute at the same rate on the amount above the 402(g) limit (including Option Exercise Profits in the year in which options are exercised), up to a maximum Company contribution in any one (1) year of twenty five thousand dollars ($25,000). To give pilots the opportunity to receive such contributions in excess of the 402(g) limit tax-deferred, the Company will maintain a tax-deferred “401(a)(17) Plan,” incorporating the current 415 Excess Plan investment options and rabbi trust provisions. Participants will be one hundred (100) percent vested in all contributions and earnings in the 401(a)(17) Plan from the date of participation.
#102
I am curious though how a first year United pilot at $66 per hour would manage to get over 13K in their B-plan.
Here goes some math in public:
Flight Pay x 16% = $13,000
Therefore, flight pay = $81,250
Paid hours = $81,250 divided by $66/hour = 1,231 paid flight hours
Averaging 102.58 paid flight hours per month, every month your first year?
Is that even possible? I know when I was at United that was not even remotely possible. ?????
Finally Grumble, for me it's all about the entire compensation package and associated work rules -- 401K match or a B-plan is only part of the equation. PBS vs No PBS; Reserve - 15 days of reserve a month for 90 TFP credit at SWA vs 18 days and 73 hours at United? The list goes on......I think I'll stick with SWA, thanks.....
Here goes some math in public:
Flight Pay x 16% = $13,000
Therefore, flight pay = $81,250
Paid hours = $81,250 divided by $66/hour = 1,231 paid flight hours
Averaging 102.58 paid flight hours per month, every month your first year?
Is that even possible? I know when I was at United that was not even remotely possible. ?????
Finally Grumble, for me it's all about the entire compensation package and associated work rules -- 401K match or a B-plan is only part of the equation. PBS vs No PBS; Reserve - 15 days of reserve a month for 90 TFP credit at SWA vs 18 days and 73 hours at United? The list goes on......I think I'll stick with SWA, thanks.....
#103
So how do you get to the full 415 limit if the company stops matching because you've hit your annual contribution limit? i.e. your personal limit is $18K for 2015. Assuming the SWA only matches what you put in, that would stop you at $36K vice the full $53K... thus how do you exceed the 415 limit?
SWA does not stop contributing at $18k. Every year they put more into my 401(k) than I do. They can only put $18k into the 401(k) in the present year but they make a separate "catchup" payment in February of the next year. In this case February 2015 for 2014's overage. Since the 415 limit applies to ALL qualified tax deferred plans and the SWA profit sharing plan is a qualified plan it goes towards this limit.
Example:
Typical SWA Captain with $225,000 gross
Employee contribution: $18,000
Company match at 9.3%: $20,925
2014 profit sharing at 9.6%: $21,600
Total: $60,525
This is how it was explained to me many years ago and this might be the ERISA limit, not the 415 limit. I'm a low time flyer and our profit sharing has been in single digits forever so I've only been over the limit twice that I can remember. I ended up getting a check for the overage because I don't participate in the Top Hat program. Any other SWA guys care to weigh in?
#104
Know this is an older thread, but when I went onto the Southwest Pilot hiring page, in the notes section below requirements #1 states still need a type before beginning training. Just something they haven't removed?
https://www.southwest.com/html/about...ns/pilots.html
https://www.southwest.com/html/about...ns/pilots.html
#105
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Posts: 139
Know this is an older thread, but when I went onto the Southwest Pilot hiring page, in the notes section below requirements #1 states still need a type before beginning training. Just something they haven't removed?
https://www.southwest.com/html/about...ns/pilots.html
https://www.southwest.com/html/about...ns/pilots.html
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