The whole ****ing match is happening because the Delta Airlines pilots want to establish their dominance over the Alaska Air Lines pilots in case we ever merge. Then the Delta pilots will say that it has already been established on APC that Alaska pilots only have 737's, have nothing to look forward to, will never be a big dong 777 pilot and therefore should be stapled below all Delta pilots.

 

I wouldn't say it has anything to do with dominance on APC. Merger policy is pretty straight forward and has to do with career expectations. How many guys leave Alaska to go onto bigger and better things? Not very many. This is the case because Alaska is a great place to work due to an awesome culture and some cool niche flying.

In merger policy, the established precedent involves career expectations. An Alaska pilot expects to end their career as a 737 Captain, not a 777 Captain. When two lists are merged anything different would be considered a windfall. In actuality, the guys flying the 737 would be conceivably allowed to cross a fence but that point depends on how junior they were when the merger went down. Some guys do fly 737s (Southwest, Alaska) to build time and eventually move on to United, American, Delta, UPS or FedEx. Since this occurs with more junior 737 drivers, fences tend to be less of a hinderance when compared to senior guys.

Alaskas perspective in a hypothetical marriage between them and Delta could also create fences in your favor. The Anchorage base is not in Deltas future, therefor fences could keep Delta pilots out of there for some time. This sucks for me because I'm at Delta and want to live in Anchorage

 

CDelta has been through 3 mergers in the last 30 years. Not once did the propose a staple or anything close to it.

 

+1

Funny how some people try jam down their opinions as reality; sounds like extremist terrorism-convert or die!

 

Why don't you re-read my first sentence first.
As for the rest, I'm glad that international flying is your thing. That's great, really. It's not for me, that's all. It's also good to hear that you enjoy your nice horizontal bunk on the airplane and three square gourmet airplane processed meals. I think I'll pass.

 

Man, this is like shootin fish in a barrel!

Too easy


Kiddy up!

 

Yeah, I know, you edited it while I was typing my response, took out the word "Like".

The point here is, unless you have flown International, you can't criticize it. You obviously have, but some of the others, not so much.

I was one of the ones who said I would NEVER fly international at Delta. I had flown the KC135 across the pond (un-augmented) and never liked it. I also said I'd never commute.

But then Delta closed my base (BOS) and made a commuter out of me. When I had to pick a new seat, I had the choice of junior Capt. on the 727, or MD88 in NYC, or senior copilot on the MD11 in ATL. Just prior to making my choice, I flew with a 767 Capt. (me as f/o) and asked him what he thought.

He said, "Fly International, it's like working for a different airline! All the layovers are 24 hours, in great hotels, in great cities, and if the plane breaks, you go home and get paid, they don't have spares! Oh, and you NEVER get rerouted!"

So, I put in for MD11 F/O in ATL and have never looked back.

I had already been a junior MD88 Capt. so I knew how much that sucked. The MD11, while a huge POS as an airplane, was a much easier job, with much better layovers and much better schedules. Due to the longer legs, I was only working 9-12 days a month., vs. 15 days a month flying a domestic line, or 19 days a month sitting reserve MD88 Capt.

 

We all know your dream job is Alaska Air Lines so I know your a bit jealous of the 737. Good thing on Page 26 you can learn how to Land your Dream job here at Alaska.

 

Of course, Tim Martins was featured on the cover of that toilet rag too, and we all know how it ended for him.

Just another poser!

 

Alaskan is a dream job! I just don't understand why ANC isn't your senior base.