What is it about SWA that people rave about?
#31
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Geez Nemo. So you got snapped at by an FA. That's like freaking out over some temporary light chop in cruise. I bet you want to break things when you're thrown an unexpected gate change.
You aren't by chance a certain CA @ JB that recently tried to sue for being off your meds, are you?
You aren't by chance a certain CA @ JB that recently tried to sue for being off your meds, are you?
I started this thread because I began to see a trend of not so good attitudes from employees when I traveled on SWA. I am aware of their success and track record and it does speak for itself. I was only curious if it was just because of a few bad apples or are the folks there not so happy anymore. Maybe my title was a little misleading and should have been phrased more along those lines. My apologies.
Oh and the scumbag that you are referring to was not taking meds. He was overworking himself while downing diet shakes for an extended amount of time. Maybe it lead to his meltdown maybe it did not. I am no doctor. But since he was a avid juicer and company man management has helped him extensively and even kept him on the seniority list. Now he turns around and tries to sue because he feels that it was the company's and the crew's responsibility to ensure he was fit for duty. He just wants mo mo money.
Back to the topic my apologies for any misunderstandings and "blastoff" eat sh!t troll.
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I wish other airlines would adopt their Jumpseat policy. Get on get your bags up, take a seat (out of courtesy take one behind the exit row unless told different) and if you are needed in the Jumpseat they call you up at the end. Doesn't get better than that.
Or most other airlines you are stuck getting on last minute trying to find overhead space. Then rushing to introduce yourself get settled, not rushing past the FAs today get on time, gate agents annoyed beyond you might make them close the door late etc.
Or most other airlines you are stuck getting on last minute trying to find overhead space. Then rushing to introduce yourself get settled, not rushing past the FAs today get on time, gate agents annoyed beyond you might make them close the door late etc.
Lately agents have been rude, non-helpful, no preboarding, and a lot of agents have no idea what's going on anymore. I find the entire boarding experience to be a complete disaster once you're on board as well, everybody switching with everybody, never on time. The only pleasurable experience is dealing with the pilots ( who are exempt from all statements above and always go out of their way) and maybe half of the flight attendants.
For those who say fine then don't fly Southwest, I usually don't however they do have a very frequent schedule... and I'd rather it be fixed then just be told to fly on somebody else. It used to be a great experience.
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I have also noticed that most airlines have cut way back on TV advertising -- with the notable exception of SWA, whose ads show up in every commercial break during baseball and basketball games, at least in the market where I reside.
My guess is that part of this phenomenon is SWA reinforcing in the minds of the masses how great they are, compared to other airlines (and there's nothing wrong with that -- especially the part about 'no itty-bitty regional jets'); and, that the legacies have finally smartened up and stopped spending money on TV ads trying to lure customers with unrealistic expectations, having finally realized that only one thing influences the purchasing habits of the Great Unwashed:
The cheapest fare on the Internet.
On Judge Judy (who makes $47million a year btw) its all SWA commercials.
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Since I don't watch commercial TV other than sports, the only SWA commercials I see are on live ballgames; so I was not aware of that distribution of advertising.
Interesting demographic.
Thanks for pointing that out.
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The original poster couldn't have been more correct. Additionally the quote above rarely happens anymore. They print you a boarding category and don't let you board with the flight deck authorization sheet that much anymore. If you ask them to board with the flight deck form, half of them don't understand that jumpseating doesn't actually mean the jumpseat and they say "no there are seats in the back". Explaining further, only confuses them further.
Lately agents have been rude, non-helpful, no preboarding, and a lot of agents have no idea what's going on anymore. I find the entire boarding experience to be a complete disaster once you're on board as well, everybody switching with everybody, never on time. The only pleasurable experience is dealing with the pilots ( who are exempt from all statements above and always go out of their way) and maybe half of the flight attendants.
For those who say fine then don't fly Southwest, I usually don't however they do have a very frequent schedule... and I'd rather it be fixed then just be told to fly on somebody else. It used to be a great experience.
Lately agents have been rude, non-helpful, no preboarding, and a lot of agents have no idea what's going on anymore. I find the entire boarding experience to be a complete disaster once you're on board as well, everybody switching with everybody, never on time. The only pleasurable experience is dealing with the pilots ( who are exempt from all statements above and always go out of their way) and maybe half of the flight attendants.
For those who say fine then don't fly Southwest, I usually don't however they do have a very frequent schedule... and I'd rather it be fixed then just be told to fly on somebody else. It used to be a great experience.
I have had a similar experience with some of our gate agents. They are honestly trying to help you out. They think that you prefer a seat in the cabin and don't want to have to go through the whole process of dealing with the jumpseat. I just politely ask for the cockpit jumpseat if that is what I want and if they still hand you a boarding group and you are in uniform, just head over to the preboard area and when the ops agent makes his or her initial announcement, ask if it is cool if you head down and introduce yourself. I haven't had one say no yet, and I frequently go down early with non-SWA guys who are in the same situation.
The response is generally the same no matter what from the flight crew - grab a seat in the back and make yourself at home. We will call you if we need you.
As for crabby FA's, every company has their five percent, us included. Some of them really need to take a long vacation. They get so frustrated telling customers the same thing over and over that it comes out rude and condescending.
Many captains (commuters, mainly) will tell guys to take a seat close to the front. You know, in case we have to call you up and for cabin security reasons in flight. I personally approve of that method. If not, though, I go aft of the exit row and plop down there in an aisle seat.
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"It was the little things that got to me, like......EXCUSE ME!.....people."
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$3+ mil in your profit sharing account after 20 years..
Anyway, that's was a SWA pilot/good friend of mine said another pilot told him.. he had been with the company for 20 years and had $3 million in just his profit sharing account.. now, I don't have a 4 year degree, and hate public math, but that equates to $150,000 a year..
Now, if they could just spend some of that profit on maintenance.
Anyway, that's was a SWA pilot/good friend of mine said another pilot told him.. he had been with the company for 20 years and had $3 million in just his profit sharing account.. now, I don't have a 4 year degree, and hate public math, but that equates to $150,000 a year..
Now, if they could just spend some of that profit on maintenance.
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With SWA, you know what you're going to get. They are consistent, the employees (generally) seem happier and more pleasant than the perpetually p!ssed off AA/UA/DAL crowd, and best of all (as has been noted previously) there is flexibility with changing/exchanging tickets. No $150 "change fee" (seriously? a few keyboard strokes costs that much?), no cancellation fee, no nickel and dime BS. And the frequent flyer program is just as flexible - have traveled for free a lot. Great website and app, hardly ever have to talk to a human.
I'm a fan, and steer clear of the legacies as much as possible.
I'm a fan, and steer clear of the legacies as much as possible.
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