I am wondering how any current negotiations are going:
Southwest, Alaska, Airtran... (others welcome)

What are the pilots asking for? What is company hoping to get?
Does anyone have any details on Frontier's TA?

 

Alaska is in the negotiating process. Right now, the discussions are about the sections in the contract that, basically, can be discussed and "agreed" to, without any "changes". The parts of the contract that take longer to discuss, such as PAY, come about down the road. We've just begun negotiations a couple of weeks ago. So Alaska is fairly early in the process. Time will tell.

LAXFO

 

Best of luck to you guys. You are just scratching the surface, and probably won't see a contract for at least 2-3 years down the road.

 

This is based on the many contract negotiations you have worked through. FDX just had their first "real" negotiation...I don't know if we need to tell airlines that have been doing this for decades how it works.

 

Not sure if the voices told me this, or it's real. But, didn't Alaska have mandatory arbitration as part of the contract? Something like, if no agreement is reached on a certain number of sections...They would automatically go to binding arbitration?

Or, is it something from a past contract, I'm thinking of.

 

Actually, we've "REALLY" been through 3, since I've been here at FedEx. The most contentious being the first. In fact, we actually went into self help. But, sadly many didn't help.

So, I agree that we are working under our first negotiated contract...But, believe me. It was not our first "real" negotiations.

And, you might want to consider that many of us are refugees and have been through many negotiations at our first couple airlines.

 

I believe you are correct, sir. Using the Ford and Harrison playbook and given the lucrative labor rates currently in place (for them) there is no incentive for them to bargain in good faith.

Something should be done about 2010.

 

That went away with the last contract.

 

Ditto at Spirit. The "easy" stuff is being agreed to now. It will come to a SCREECHING halt (IMO) as soon as PAY comes up.
Our D.O., and President (CEO?), actually say our W-2s are thin, and want to bring them up.
HOWEVER, our work rules are too fat. SOOOOOO....
We'll see.

 

I am wondering how any current negotiations are going:
Southwest, Alaska, Airtran... (others welcome)

USAirways East & West have been negotiating a single contract with management for over a year ...

What are the pilots asking for?

Not enough ... barely the "best of both" contracts in most areas. And payrates that are absurdly low for a company that is offering over 10 BILLION for DAL ...

What is company hoping to get?

The "worst of both" contracts ... and then some.

They provide lip service to the public & investment community and state they will offer the "best of the three" for labor if the DAL deal goes through.

Meanwhile at the negotiating table, they find our SCOPE proposals to be too confusing for them ... STALL, STALL, STALL ... our work rules too expensive to adminster, shouldn't the FARs be enough ? etc., etc., etc.

And they even find it too expensive to reissue our new and improved black uniforms with a HAT ... as required by our contract if the uniform design is changed.