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Old 03-25-2017, 11:35 AM
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You can skip all the traffic and just fly right in from PDX. Hourly flights (45 min) and easypeasy drive from Vancouver (WA). That area is way more affordable but prices are creeping up. Vancouver is a neat town with lots of good food/beer/vineyards and decent schools. Camas is great too. It is just east of Vancouver. Access to Downtown Portland is easy but traffic can be tough around the commute hours. No sales tax in OR for your big ticket items. All the big box stores are right across the river.
Just more food for thought.

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Old 03-25-2017, 12:43 PM
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[QUOTE=popcorn;2328936]Lol. I'll never understand why someone asks a question like "I'm considering moving to a liberal mecca, but want an area without too many liberals, low taxes and small government". Here's an idea. Stay in PTC so that you'll be around "your kind" and never be exposed to things like taxes, hipsters, traffic, LGBT people, and democrats. Stay in Georgia. You'll hate the Left Coast. And we out here are tired of you eastern rednecks moving here and trying to change everything then *****ing and complaining when you realize you can't.[/QUOTE

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Old 03-25-2017, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by mike734 View Post
It's easy to predict the weather. If you can't see Mt Rainer, it's raining. If you can see it, it's going to rain.
I love the rain! Full aquifers. Really really fun winters up high in the Cascades and Olympics. It alleviates stinging eyes after duck diving sets. And most importantly, it keeps visitors - visitors.
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Old 03-26-2017, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by popcorn View Post
Lol. I'll never understand why someone asks a question like "I'm considering moving to a liberal mecca, but want an area without too many liberals, low taxes and small government". Here's an idea. Stay in PTC so that you'll be around "your kind" and never be exposed to things like taxes, hipsters, traffic, LGBT people, and democrats. Stay in Georgia. You'll hate the Left Coast. And we out here are tired of you eastern rednecks moving here and trying to change everything then *****ing and complaining when you realize you can't.
Here's reality, if you look outside Puget Sound area you'll note that the majority of Washington State is deeply red. Just like Oregon is outside of Portland/Eugene.

You don't need to go all the way to PTC to find "rednecks," a 30 mile drive will do just fine.

When I grew up there everyone was complaining about Californians coming in and wanting to change everything.
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Originally Posted by Sputnik View Post
You don't need to go all the way to PTC to find "rednecks," a 30 mile drive will do just fine.
Wouldn't that put you in Sasquatch country?
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Originally Posted by popcorn View Post
Lol. I'll never understand why someone asks a question like "I'm considering moving to a liberal mecca, but want an area without too many liberals, low taxes and small government". Here's an idea. Stay in PTC so that you'll be around "your kind" and never be exposed to things like taxes, hipsters, traffic, LGBT people, and democrats. Stay in Georgia. You'll hate the Left Coast. And we out here are tired of you eastern rednecks moving here and trying to change everything then *****ing and complaining when you realize you can't.
People like you are the reason no one wants to move to the west coast.
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Originally Posted by C130driver View Post
People like you are the reason no one wants to move to the west coast.
Good. I think y'all should start going vertical as in high rises to keep more of y'all in ptc. ; )
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I think it's comical people actually would use politics as a criteria for where they want to live. I have friends, family, and neighbors that are democrats and republicans, and I'm the only one that's actually sane because I'm an independent that can think for myself. Yet, we all get along. You'll often find that when you surround yourself with folks that may not be exactly like you you tend to be a better listener, more open to new ideas, and not a cranky extremist. That goes for most things not just your politics.
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A lot of you "native" Seattle folks obviously didn't live there prior to the Microsoft era and the Californication of the mid-late 80s.

It wasn't always a "liberal mecca" by any stretch of the imagination.
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Originally Posted by Hacker15e View Post
A lot of you "native" Seattle folks obviously didn't live there prior to the Microsoft era and the Californication of the mid-late 80s.

It wasn't always a "liberal mecca" by any stretch of the imagination.
For decades, Seattle's fortunes almost completely rose and fell with Boeing's:

Billboard reading "Will the Last Person Leaving SEATTLE -- Turn Out the Lights" appears near Sea-Tac International Airport on April 16, 1971. - HistoryLink.org

Story about the infamous billboard by SEATAC that asked the "last resident leaving Seattle to please turn out the lights" in the early 1970's.

When I was a kid in Oregon, the governor, Tom McCall was famous for telling Californian's, "Your welcome to visit, please don't stay!"

The Oregon sign at the California border for decades said,
"Welcome to Oregon, enjoy your visit"

So the previous posters animosity towards people moving to the NW is not a new trait, he's just keeping up an age old undercurrent of resentment against people arriving with lot's of cash and raising prices/building over green space/ and generally crowding the area.
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