Norwegian Shuttle hiring US-based 787 pilots
10-15-2016, 06:58 PM
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10 days a month off!!?!? $8k/month to skipper a 787?!? No benefits or work rules or protections???? Where do I sign up?!?!?
10-15-2016, 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
I always thought the concern was Norwegian shuttle would be based in one place, registered/licensed in another, and hire crews out of third world countries under contracts based on Thailand labor laws. But that's not the case here. They are advertising to hire US citizens, US certificated pilots, with US medicals, US-based, and a contract offer that is in full compliance with all US-based labor laws. So what's wrong with that? If you think the wage is too low, that's fine, and the market will dictate what happens next. If the wage is too low, not many will show up and the rate will have to go up.
And why be only upset at this one contract offer of a widebody position based at FLL? No shortage of FLL/MIA based US-carriers flying widebody aircraft for less than what Norwegian is offering. Eg, Amerijet 767s, Florida West 767, Centurion MD11, etc. Just drive around the roads around MIA airport and all the widebody N-registered aircraft operated by American pilots are probably doing it for less than what Norwegian is offering.
And why be only upset at this one contract offer of a widebody position based at FLL? No shortage of FLL/MIA based US-carriers flying widebody aircraft for less than what Norwegian is offering. Eg, Amerijet 767s, Florida West 767, Centurion MD11, etc. Just drive around the roads around MIA airport and all the widebody N-registered aircraft operated by American pilots are probably doing it for less than what Norwegian is offering.
10-16-2016, 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
Why has their DOT application not been denied???!!!!
10-16-2016, 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
I always thought the concern was Norwegian shuttle would be based in one place, registered/licensed in another, and hire crews out of third world countries under contracts based on Thailand labor laws. But that's not the case here. They are advertising to hire US citizens, US certificated pilots, with US medicals, US-based, and a contract offer that is in full compliance with all US-based labor laws. So what's wrong with that? If you think the wage is too low, that's fine, and the market will dictate what happens next. If the wage is too low, not many will show up and the rate will have to go up.
And why be only upset at this one contract offer of a widebody position based at FLL? No shortage of FLL/MIA based US-carriers flying widebody aircraft for less than what Norwegian is offering. Eg, Amerijet 767s, Florida West 767, Centurion MD11, etc. Just drive around the roads around MIA airport and all the widebody N-registered aircraft operated by American pilots are probably doing it for less than what Norwegian is offering.
And why be only upset at this one contract offer of a widebody position based at FLL? No shortage of FLL/MIA based US-carriers flying widebody aircraft for less than what Norwegian is offering. Eg, Amerijet 767s, Florida West 767, Centurion MD11, etc. Just drive around the roads around MIA airport and all the widebody N-registered aircraft operated by American pilots are probably doing it for less than what Norwegian is offering.
10-16-2016, 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by The Dominican
Why would it be? Remember that there are many US airlines with bases in other countries......, the whole "Open Skies" thing are bilateral agreements
10-16-2016, 03:08 AM
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/just using the laws available. Maybe Trump is running this operation.
10-16-2016, 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
They are still a flag of convenience.
10-16-2016, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by The Dominican
Why would it be? Remember that there are many US airlines with bases in other countries......, the whole "Open Skies" thing are bilateral agreements
If your referring to the quickly dismantling NRT hubs that the airlines operated after WWII to get Japan's aviation sector going quickly (and the same back in Germany that are already dismantled), those aren't "bases" they just are hubs that are using the rights from post war. All of the pilots are "based" in the US.
If your referring to UAL in Guam, well, it's a protectorate of the US, and although not a state, all the US employment laws apply there just as they do in SFO.
Otherwise, not sure what in the H$^# your talking about....
10-16-2016, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Roundup
Who? You mean Southwest?
Originally Posted by ShyGuy
They are advertising to hire US citizens, US certificated pilots, with US medicals, US-based, and a contract offer that is in full compliance with all US-based labor laws. So what's wrong with that? If you think the wage is too low, that's fine, and the market will dictate what happens next. If the wage is too low, not many will show up and the rate will have to go up.
Originally Posted by ShyGuy
And why be only upset at this one contract offer of a widebody position based at FLL? No shortage of FLL/MIA based US-carriers flying widebody aircraft for less than what Norwegian is offering. Eg, Amerijet 767s, Florida West 767, Centurion MD11, etc. Just drive around the roads around MIA airport and all the widebody N-registered aircraft operated by American pilots are probably doing it for less than what Norwgian is offering.
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