Actually, it was 800 & look how Trump responded to their union leader who corrected him. Carrier still outsourcing far more jobs to Mexico.

https://apple.news/Aql0yPcGLQwSNnaeriNmEag


And check out who our new DOT Secretary's father is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_S.C._Chao

The study did not conclude more hurricanes. Unfortunately, uneducated people and journalists read single sentence in a summary and write entire articles about incorrect conclusions. Climate change won't alter what is needed for a hurricane to form like low shear and a lack of dry air advection. They also don't change steering currents and formation locations. Once they do form, a much larger percentage of them will be major. We have been incredibly lucky in that most large hurricanes that have formed this year have remained away from the coasts of the US.

And yes, 193 of 196 countries signed the Paris Climate agreement. Edit: what I read was wrong. The only non-signatories are Iraq, Syria, Nicaragua and Uzbekistan.

Good, the union boss was out of line.

Us steel bringing back up to 10k jobs.
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/07/us-steel-wants-to-accelerate-investments-bring-back-jobs-ceo-says.html

Hope trump pulls is out of that nonsense.

Here's a good article to read in the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists from Cook. I know you don't like him and think he's a fraud, but at least read it.

http://thebulletin.org/yes-there-really-scientific-consensus-climate-change9332

Yep, so we can be global leaders with Iraq and Syria. America for the win.

Hoax and swindle

How was he out of line? Trump didn't save 1100 jobs. Many of those jobs he claimed to save were staying in Indiana anyways. I think his comments are more than warranted. And companies don't leave a place because the unions don't go a good enough job representing their workers. They leave when they do too good of a job.

Cow farts.

Gotta stop 'em or DOOOOOOOMED!!

No word yet on how the snowflakes intend to regulate human farts. But don't worry, they'll think of something.

:p

The union boss was out of line for pointing out the inconvenient truth? How dare him make an issue out of Trump getting the Carrier employees' hopes up by lying about how many jobs were actually going to be kept in Indiana.

Please, don't ever do any union work.

Science and facts are hard especially in this post-truth, tweet attention span era.

Science is not done by consensus. It is done with provable facts. These people are predicting the future based on data they are putting into a computer program they came up with. Forty years ago they were predicting that there would be ice all over the planet. Twenty years ago they said there would be no more ice caps. Algore, the biggest scam artist of them all, predicted 15 years ago that the eastern seaboard would be under water this year. Just another way to separate the masses from their money. Chicken Little.
There is no way you can tell me what is going to happen 50 years from now. Even the original climate change guru, James Lovelock, is now a skeptic. Stop the hysteria.

The truth is whatever we say it is!

Sincerely,

Snowflakes Against Fart Emissions (SAFE)

So, we should stop predicting the weather? Just kinda wing it? By the way, inside of 8 days, our stupid computer programs are incredibly accurate at predicting weather. The people who say that AGW is a real thing are looking at what as already been measured. Sea levels have risen 6.7 inches in the last century. The rate in the last decade was nearly double the last century. The earth has warmed 1 degree C in the last century. 15 of the last 16 warmest years on record have happened since 2001. These occurred even during an unusually deep solar min event from 2007-2009. And on. And on. Again, the acidification of the oceans by the record output of the Carbon Dioxide (not a theory), is causing mass deaths in global reefs.

I love it. "They"..... Who is "they"? The powerful love parrots like you.

Try looking up Moore's Law, ponder the implications and then look at the data and science that are clear.

Then, closer to home, look at the new DOT Secretary and her views and standby for incoming.

Funny how you don't seem to know, or willfully overlook, that Obama's DOT just approved NAI.

Ho hum. :rolleyes:

No, I am well aware of it and very disappointed in the Obama Administration for not pushing the decision onto Trump's plate. But I also know that while the didn't give us everything we wanted he and Clinton did all kinds of great things for labor unlike the Republicans never ending war on organized labor. Just look how the past four decades went for pilots and who was President at the time.

Your ignorance of labor and environmental issues is obviously willful. Self delusion is a powerful and darwinian self-defense mechanism. I bet you see something akin to the Marlboro Man when you look in the mirror, not an accomplished pilot who is dependent on a union for earning a decent wage. Remember, the Marlboro Man died of lung cancer. The Marlboro Man Died of Lung Cancer? : snopes.com

You see who Trump just announced for Labor Sec? Im A Conservative and feeling pretty uncomfortable right now.

Trump Expected to Name Fast-Food Executive Andy Puzder as Labor Secretary - WSJ

lulz

I'm sure you are. Funny how you cannot bring yourself to simply condemn BO for the decision itself rather than "for not pushing it onto Trump's plate". But we've long known this about you and your Precious.

:rolleyes:

No, I never said to stop predicting the weather. Just don't try to tell me what it's going to be 50 years from now. By the way, those wonderful computers predicted a 70% chance of snow here yesterday. Not even a snowflake.
There has only been recording of temperature since the mid 1800's and only since around 1890 what would be considered accurate by today's standard. Unless Thag the caveman somehow invented a thermometer and recorded temps on his cave wall I'm not going to rely on 150 years of temperature on a planet that has been around for only God knows how long (and yes I do believe it's longer than 6000 years, 6017 :D) to say whether or not the globe is at hot or cold as it ever has been. Can't be proven.
CO2 is not a threat. How do you think plant life on the planet survives. Each tree on this planet takes in CO2 and then puts out enough O2 for at least 1 person to breathe. CO2 is not a dangerous gas and the acidification of the oceans by it has been proven wrong by several studies. More hysteria. It is a theory and a wrong one.
Stop believing the leftist alarmists like Algore who just want your money.
Science is not done by consensus and there are just as many scientists out there who are not buying it as there are who believe it. Just because you do or do not believe it doesn't make you any smarter or dumber than the other person. The climate is always changing.

So? Do you understand what a percentage is?

Wow!

Pardon those of us who take the word of the scientists over your obviously well intentioned, if hysterically ill-informed opinions. It's kind of like when I trust the engineers who determined the wing on my plane will create enough lift to get us into the air.

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration disagrees with your comment about a "myth." Ocean Acidification

Also, 70% is not a chance. It's geographic coverage. Within a defined area (often areas as large as all of central TN), 70% of the area will see the forecasted amount of precipitation. Anything less than 40% is considered negligible.

It's hard to be conscientious of the environment when you are being payed well to destroy it.

You're never going to win with the chicken little alarmist types. Even though their predictions from years ago continue to be wrong. Global warming is a religion for these characters. I'm thankful Trump put someone in charge of the EPA who is going to stop some of this nonsense.

They are not my opinions. They are well researched facts and not by me. The global alarmists are the hysterical ones. Global alarmists try to shout down the scientific evidence that disproves what they have tried to prove by calling the scientists who present this information heretics and deniers and the compliant media helps them by piling on. Hell, there are calls by some on the left to prosecute and throw all the deniers in jail.
WOW! is right.
And yes I do know what a percentage is. No snow fell anywhere in the area forecast to have snowfall.
Why don't you research what the original climate change guru James Lovelock has to say about "Global Climate change" now.
The hysteria is all on your side. The sky is falling, the sky is falling.

Al Gore said miami would be underwater by 2014. These predictions aren't based in science, man made global warming is "fake news".

BigDopeSix, he loves the smell of napalm in the morning. And it shows. :rolleyes:

...and the smell of some oil and coal heating my house and powering my ipad!!

I think climate change would be easy to accept if the remedy didn't threaten to cramp our style. As it is, we have a fatal addiction to hydrocarbons that future generations will have to deal with.

What's unfortunate is the day this became political. That was the day that intelligent folks stopped processing this with logic and starting applying their emotional response that they use for all things not in line with their political affiliation. I'm not sure how anyone can say with a straight face that adding our industrial output from the last century to the atmosphere won't have had at least SOME effect. Will it warm the planet? It's a theory. But one that if ignored and proven right could be devastating. Even a 1% chance that it is humans deserves our utmost efforts to not screw it up for all the folks down the line.

Put it this way: if youre wrong the world gets screwed up. If 97.4% of scientists are wrong you pay more taxes or something
Risk vs reward

No they are opinions and not supported by the scientific evidence. Sorry.
Apparently you don't. A 70% chance of something happening means that 3 out of every 10 times it won't. Kind of like the chances of Clinton winning the election.

Who cares? There has to be some benefit to a warmer world. Perhaps a longer growing season!? It would be great if the northwest passage was a reality because the ice melted. Hey more vegetation because of more Co2. I could go on and on. Personally I don't think solar power is going to keep the jets flying and then how would we all earn a living. Really if everyone was saying global cooling the alarmist would freak out as well.

I bet you could with such nonsense. You might have noticed that we are dependent on a complex ecosystem that is comprised of organisms that are continually adapting, but at a VERY SLOW rate. This isn't simply a matter of flooding, storms and weather patterns. If the rate of change exceeds organisms ability to adapt (see coral reef bleaching) then very bad things happen like famine, war, mass human migrations, etc. On the other hand energy dependence and decentralization leads to all kinds of positive outcomes. Aviation is a very small part of the problem and solar is a better for all sorts of other applications. Biofuels is better for aviation. https://www.thestreet.com/story/1391...emissions.html

Sounds like you have beach front property in Nevada to sell. This so called global warming is just not a big deal. The predictions of doom and gloom have already not panned out. Are the words famine, floods, war, drought new? This stuff has been happening for thousands of years. Calm down and enjoy our modern life.

"Biofuels" are an oxymoron. The true "Biofuel" is.......petroleum.

65 million years ago a bunch of dinosaurs and plants died. Through time, solar radiation, etc, that biomass was reduced to....petroleum. All we have to do is find it and pump it out of the ground and refine it a bit.

Or, we can burn fuel by planting, irrigating, fertilizing, and harvesting crops. Then we can burn more fuel trucking it to a factory where we burn more fuel to reduce it into "biofuel".

The "organic" solution, is petroleum. Biofuel is a cruel joke, sold to the masses by politicians with a financial agenda. The hippies jump all over it because it sounds cool.

You have to use an all the above approach to energy and global climate change. These are systemic problems that demands systemic solutions. Unfortunately the biggest consumer of energy and producer of green house emissions will be run by a bunch of flat earth deniers for the next four years.

You're right. In the long run, the planet will be fine. Humans, on the other hand, are totally f@#$ed.

40% of the world's population live within 60km of a coastline. A coastline that will be shifting dramatically in the next 500 years. I expect that will cause enough disruption to cause a global conflict, mass refugees, and other unsavory events.

50% of the world's oxygen is generated by phytoplankton, a small algae organism quite susceptible to ocean temperature changes. Screwing with the oxygen supply of the planet isn't smart.

Needless to say, the real reason why you don't care about any of this is that you're going to be dead when it happens. And your empathy for future people is near zero.

FlytoLive, Flyprdu and anyone else that believes in the scientific consensus: This is an exercise in futility. You're not going to change their minds. This is an example of a post-fact dystopia that actually began 20 years ago aided by a shop-for-your-fact-bubble internet and "cover the controversy" media.

Don't waste the bandwidth.