And we'll see how deep NAI's pockets are when the first global recession hits during their expansion.

 

I completely agree with you. I didn't mean it was going to be a worthwhile place to work. Relatively speaking, I think Spirit/Frontier/JB/SWA will eventually be the only choices we have. The one who pays the most will be the shiniest turd in the bowl if you like.

I don't work for Spirit, but I wish you gentlemen luck. I'm at a regional, and Im still deciding what the best way to play this is.

 

I thought only idiots make predictions in this industry?

It doesn't make me salivate, it makes me nauseous.

 

I agree but I think they're going to lose on international big time. US carriers suck. Period. They cannot compete against the other big international carriers on product. America is fat, lazy, and entitled. The service on US carriers (my airline included) is McDonald's dollar menu crap when compared to a wide body full of 20 something year olds that look and smell lovely and aren't 50 lbs overweight and nearing 70 years old, behave like ladies and not uncaged gorillas, and treat the customers as the reason for their job and not the self loading freight that's interrupting their Candy Crush game. I remember distinctly seeing a Cathay Pacific crew walking through the airport Hilton LAX a few years back followed by a United crew. JHC. It was like a slaughter ready pig following a Kentucky race horse. American carriers will lose to everyone else on product.

Ask the rust belt how patriotic steel customers were once you could import steel cheaper than buying US made. Now imagine a paying customer being offered the same fare on NAI vs AA/UA/DL and imagine their cabin crew versus yours. Still get a warm fuzzy? I don't think I'll be updating my apps any more.

 

That's easy; shoot for the Legacies. When you land there, continue living on your current regional salary expectations, and bank the difference you'll be making at the Legacy.

Start buying rental properties with the excess cash. Or a Jimmy John's franchise.

This house of cards isn't about to collapse overnight, but it will likely be adversely affecting future career choices, so insulate yourself as best as you can before that happens.

Guy I know from Suddern did just that; left Suddern, took a job flying in Afghanistan, made real good coin, invested in multi-family housing back home. Now he's got some 20+ doors generating monthly cashflow. When he didn't get hired at the Legacy of his choice, it didn't matter. He's flying 121 supp cargo now, but on his terms, and he's home every night. The flying "job" became nothing more than a hobby for him.

 

You said I needed to make a bet so I threw my two cents in.

Based on the fact you say you're still at a regional, does this mean you will not be applying to the legacies? Honest question because you seem so sure of how things will be going.


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I sure hope he does. He has been talking a big game, but he seems unpredictable.

I think he would probably be more likely to overturn this thing than Hillary would have been.

 

So much truth to that, it hurt. Couldn't stop laughing though. Spot on.

 

I know I'm pointing out the obvious (and you probably realize this, too) but EEOC an anti-discrimination laws have a lot to do with that.

 

A Spirit guy saying that the Big 3 products suck? Wow.....

So you're definition of a good "product" is 100% about the tightness of the a%^ of the cabin crew. You mentioned it twice. Have you flown on Norwegian? I have. It's nothing special.

Oh and your example of Cathay? Yeah, check their financials. Airline profits are about more than how tight the skirt is of the flight attendants. It's a big world out there, and the US Airlines operate on a macro scale.

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