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Old 12-06-2016 | 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by gettinbumped
A Spirit guy saying that the Big 3 products suck? Wow.....

So you're definition of a good "product" is 100% about the tightness of the a%^ of the cabin crew. You mentioned it twice. Have you flown on Norwegian? I have. It's nothing special.

Oh and your example of Cathay? Yeah, check their financials. Airline profits are about more than how tight the skirt is of the flight attendants. It's a big world out there, and the US Airlines operate on a macro scale.

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Too much guard monitoring and not enough reading comprehension?

Again, for the short bus crowd, I put in parentheses (little things that look like >()<)

(MY AIRLINE INCLUDED)

One more time in case you missed it.

(MY AIRLINE INCLUDED)

One last time while you jump juniors ass for calling in range on guard

(MY AIRLINE INCLUDED)

Now, back to 121.5 there El Capitan
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Old 12-06-2016 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Hou757
Not to be political but I would be very surprised if the Trump administration doesn't over turn this ruling..

Originally Posted by jcountry
I sure hope he does. He has been talking a big game, but he seems unpredictable.

I think he would probably be more likely to overturn this thing than Hillary would have been.

Trump is only one person.

Even if he has the authority to overturn the decision, the pressure to not do so will come from the other 535 elected officials in DC, whose constituents, especially those in the populous areas which NAI plans to serve, already feel entitled to cheap airfares to everywhere.
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Old 12-06-2016 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Macjet
Too much guard monitoring and not enough reading comprehension?

Again, for the short bus crowd, I put in parentheses (little things that look like >()<)

(MY AIRLINE INCLUDED)

One more time in case you missed it.

(MY AIRLINE INCLUDED)

One last time while you jump juniors ass for calling in range on guard

(MY AIRLINE INCLUDED)

Now, back to 121.5 there El Capitan
You just decided to go full tool there huh? Not surprised based on your original post where you seem to think an airlines product and profits are determined by how hot the flight attendants are.

You seem happy at NK. Glad for you. Hope that it works out and you guys get some more money soon.
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Old 12-06-2016 | 06:38 PM
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I see a lot of posts saying that "LCC's will be OK, as their focus is domestic. NAI will never be able to fly point-to-point in the US!"

Let me ask you this... if it was this easy for them to get flag-of-convenience... how hard will it be to advocate for cabotage?

The same John Doe that only cares that a ticket from Vegas to Europe costs $69 won't give a damn that his $49 ticket from Vegas to JFK is flown by foreign pilots.

All of us are vulnerable.
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Old 12-06-2016 | 06:58 PM
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I hate the idea as much as anyone, but unfortunately the flights are legal under the open skies agreement. US agreed to it and delayed it as much as they could. Ethically I hope it goes away, but even if the mighty president overturns it and disregards the agreement, US carriers could be banned from flying to the EU. What would be the best solution?
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Old 12-06-2016 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 50SeatsofGrey
I thought only idiots make predictions in this industry?

It doesn't make me salivate, it makes me nauseous.
If I knew how to quote two of your posts in this one post, I'd quote the post right above this one, where you predict the LCC's will be the only airlines left, after NAI puts all the legacies under.
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Old 12-06-2016 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Yabadaba
I hate the idea as much as anyone, but unfortunately the flights are legal under the open skies agreement. US agreed to it and delayed it as much as they could. Ethically I hope it goes away, but even if the mighty president overturns it and disregards the agreement, US carriers could be banned from flying to the EU. What would be the best solution?
NAI is just a tiny player in the US-EU market. They have way, way, way more to lose if they started banning US carriers from flying to and from the EU.
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Old 12-06-2016 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Big E 757
NAI is just a tiny player in the US-EU market. They have way, way, way more to lose if they started banning US carriers from flying to and from the EU.
Absolutely.

For all the requirements they will have to have, I hope the pool dries up quickly.
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Old 12-07-2016 | 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by coorsFlight
I see a lot of posts saying that "LCC's will be OK, as their focus is domestic. NAI will never be able to fly point-to-point in the US!"

Let me ask you this... if it was this easy for them to get flag-of-convenience... how hard will it be to advocate for cabotage?

The same John Doe that only cares that a ticket from Vegas to Europe costs $69 won't give a damn that his $49 ticket from Vegas to JFK is flown by foreign pilots.

All of us are vulnerable.
Until one of these ****ty foreign LCCs crash on American soil (heaven forbid) and word gets out that the pilots were 200 hour wonders from some god forsaken third world country.
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Old 12-07-2016 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by C130driver
Until one of these ****ty foreign LCCs crash on American soil (heaven forbid) and word gets out that the pilots were 200 hour wonders from some god forsaken third world country.
People still buy tickets on Asiana. It would take multiple crashes in short succession to even be a factor. Let's be honest, a 200 hr guy can do just as good as a 10,000 hour guy in almost every scenario. In fact at AA the flows are a huge training issue, and they have tens of thousands of hours.
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