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Old 05-08-2008, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Eric Stratton View Post
if it leaves no one behind, are the nwa pilots getting the raises that you are along with equity?
It's pretty simple: DALAPA is not authorized to negotiate on NWA pilots' behalf.

Now strap on your crash helmet--the short bus is here to take you to school.

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Old 05-08-2008, 10:33 AM
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I am sure that NWA will get exactly what the DAL guys are getting.

Before it is over I would bet on the junior guys getting sold down the river to benefit the senior ones. It is the way that we do things. Why would it change this time?
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Old 05-08-2008, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Spaceman Spliff View Post
It's pretty simple: DALAPA is not authorized to negotiate on NWA pilots' behalf.

Now strap on your crash helmet--the short bus is here to take you to school.
and it's quit simple to see that you left nwa behind and negotiated without them. hence the aunt and uncle senerio...

crash helmet--short bus--funny
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Before it is over I would bet on the junior guys getting sold down the river to benefit the senior ones. It is the way that we do things. Why would it change this time?
Amen, acl65. I'm on the NWA side of the fence. For us junior guys (and gals) we are going to be at the bottom of this mess no matter how it turns out. No one will look out for us!

You just gotta live life, be happy, and take it one day at a time. I'm not going to let these geezers (NWA) and double breasted 48 yr old captains (DAL) ruin my life.

Just do something, get it done and let life go on.

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot View Post
I am sure that NWA will get exactly what the DAL guys are getting.

Before it is over I would bet on the junior guys getting sold down the river to benefit the senior ones. It is the way that we do things. Why would it change this time?
I am not responding just because I am a Jr guy that is going to get sold down the river. I am reponding because now is a time to make a change and not sell anyone out. As an ALPA member for 10 plus yrs, I have watched ALPA become more and more divided. Age 65, US Air, etc. As an ALPA member all I witnessed is the Union doing what the Union wants NOT what the members want. In away it is our own fault for electing our reps. However, why should anyone be sold out. Fight for a uniform compensation package. Now is the time to start changing things. Look at non ALPA carriers SWA, AA, UPS, even Skywest, and now USAW. Those groups have unity and power. All their dues go to their own causes. This is all about us vs them, us = Pilots them = mgmt. We the NWA and DAL group can set the bar for future mergers and rates. So, lets not mess it up...
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Let's ditch ALPA and start a "new Delta" union with NWA and DAL guys.

If Easties can do it...can't be that hard.

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Old 05-08-2008, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Spaceman Spliff View Post
Let's ditch ALPA and start a "new Delta" union with NWA and DAL guys.
How about a new global airline Union....
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It is going to be bad for both parties......mergers usually are.
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Old 05-08-2008, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Spaceman Spliff View Post
Let's ditch ALPA and start a "new Delta" union with NWA and DAL guys.
Hooray! Someone gets it.
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Old 05-08-2008, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric Stratton View Post
if it leaves no one behind, are the nwa pilots getting the raises that you are along with equity?
Eric,
Either you are unaware that the LOA pay increases do not start until January 1, 2009 or just trying to stir the pot. That gives us about 7 months before anyone can be left behind.
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