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09-17-2008, 05:01 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by NWA320pilot
wonder how they will work the -400 with no domestic flying on it's pairings.....
09-17-2008, 06:21 PM
#22
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Same way we work the -ER out of NYC now... we have ZERO domestic flying. What's your question? Not being snotty, I am just wondering what it is you are wondering about.
24 hrs on short call.
No duty requirement for international so what they do is one day short call one day long call and so on.
First 12 hrs you can fly a domestic paring that is in the ER trip parings, after that it has to be an international parring due to rest requirements domestically.
No duty requirement for international so what they do is one day short call one day long call and so on.
First 12 hrs you can fly a domestic paring that is in the ER trip parings, after that it has to be an international parring due to rest requirements domestically.
09-17-2008, 08:18 PM
#23
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Originally Posted by DAL4EVER
Not with Glen at the helm you won't. If the range of a -400 is 6500 miles than that's what you'll be flying. I think I've only flown a 767 to MCO about three times this year. The rest of it has been a 757.
09-18-2008, 04:39 AM
#24
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Originally Posted by NWA320pilot
I was referring to the long call vs. short call for reserves with all int'l flying..... The question was regarding acl65pilot's post:
I don't really understand what you are saying either. The part about domestic he posted refers to the Whitlow ruling with the FAA. If you are flying domestic you must always be able to look back in any 24 hour period and see 8 hours rest. Being on call on reserve is not rest. If the company places you on short call you must block in 16 hours later or you have committed a FAR infraction. No such rule applies to international. His point was if the company puts you on a 24 hours short call you are no longer legal for a domestic leg after 16 hours. The company cuts it off at 12 to avoid issues. Has nothing at all to do with international trip assignments. They can give you anything they want at any time during the 24 hours you are on call.
09-18-2008, 05:48 AM
#25
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They can assign you long or short call at their leisure.
I have been given six periods this month where as some of by buddies have had none to two. There is no rhyme or reason to who they assign it to.
Also please clarify what you are asking about with the short call rules.
Basically international stinks.
I have been given six periods this month where as some of by buddies have had none to two. There is no rhyme or reason to who they assign it to.
Also please clarify what you are asking about with the short call rules.
Basically international stinks.
09-18-2008, 06:36 AM
#26
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob
That's because I've been flying all the other 767 legs to/from MCO.
09-18-2008, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Mine too, and I am not flying that much.
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