NWA's proposed list- YGTBSM!
10-21-2008, 02:14 PM
#11
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2007
Position: 7ERA
Posts: 1,216
Originally Posted by capncrunch
I never really understood career expectations, especially in this industry. If you look at history, it has not been kind to the largest airlines in the world.
you are right. The only thing that is certain is where you are today. That's why the Delta proposal is right in line. Everyone ends up on the list with people who occupy the same kind of seats.
10-21-2008, 06:33 PM
#14
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2008
Posts: 19,273
You wont see the NWA proposed list unless it leaks from the NWA side. The Delta pilots will honor the agreement to keep list submissions confidential. It would be damaging to our case to have the list leak out from our side. You should only see the final product.
10-21-2008, 06:43 PM
#15
Underboob King
Joined APC: May 2005
Position: Guppy Commander
Posts: 4,412
Originally Posted by sailingfun
You wont see the NWA proposed list unless it leaks from the NWA side. The Delta pilots will honor the agreement to keep list submissions confidential. It would be damaging to our case to have the list leak out from our side. You should only see the final product.
10-21-2008, 06:54 PM
#16
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2008
Position: VEOP Retired! 7ER A was last position
Posts: 978
Super,
I think you'll find that the final product is a lot closer to the Delta proposal than the "Super Premium" Widebody, top 500 +DOH widely rumored to be NWA's proposal. JMHO. From the transcripts- Delta has almost twice the intl block hours than NWA wow!
Mark Coghlin
Delta guy
I think you'll find that the final product is a lot closer to the Delta proposal than the "Super Premium" Widebody, top 500 +DOH widely rumored to be NWA's proposal. JMHO. From the transcripts- Delta has almost twice the intl block hours than NWA wow!
Mark Coghlin
Delta guy
10-21-2008, 07:09 PM
#17
Underboob King
Joined APC: May 2005
Position: Guppy Commander
Posts: 4,412
Originally Posted by Cogf16
Super,
I think you'll find that the final product is a lot closer to the Delta proposal than the "Super Premium" Widebody, top 500 +DOH widely rumored to be NWA's proposal. JMHO. From the transcripts- Delta has almost twice the intl block hours than NWA wow!
Mark Coghlin
Delta guy
I think you'll find that the final product is a lot closer to the Delta proposal than the "Super Premium" Widebody, top 500 +DOH widely rumored to be NWA's proposal. JMHO. From the transcripts- Delta has almost twice the intl block hours than NWA wow!
Mark Coghlin
Delta guy
That is to be expected. Again thats exactly why this is in arbitration. Both sides have their points of interest and both sides proposals will be viewed as the extremes. basic negotiating skills, start with extremes to better set the the middle grounds. we are all about to find out pretty soon how this will play out. After that hopefully we can all be on the same team fighting for the same things together
10-21-2008, 07:26 PM
#19
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: 765-A
Posts: 6,844
Originally Posted by Cogf16
Super,
I think you'll find that the final product is a lot closer to the Delta proposal than the "Super Premium" Widebody, top 500 +DOH widely rumored to be NWA's proposal. JMHO. From the transcripts- Delta has almost twice the intl block hours than NWA wow!
Mark Coghlin
Delta guy
I think you'll find that the final product is a lot closer to the Delta proposal than the "Super Premium" Widebody, top 500 +DOH widely rumored to be NWA's proposal. JMHO. From the transcripts- Delta has almost twice the intl block hours than NWA wow!
Mark Coghlin
Delta guy
10-21-2008, 07:37 PM
#20
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2008
Position: VEOP Retired! 7ER A was last position
Posts: 978
Super,
I appreciate the tone and civility but I really don't see how the Delta proposal is seen as extreme. Relative position with modifications for our aircraft orders and your possible aircraft parkings doesn't seem extreme. I have heard of NW guys figuring they stand to lose approx 1-4% on relative position under the Delta proposal and if you take most or all of that out in the final iteration after "negotiating", isn't retaining your current NW relative position at the new Delta fair and reasonable? Remember, because of our much higher % of widebody/intl flying than NWA, your retained relative position at Delta will be much more valuable, not to mention the payraises. I just can't understand how this could be viewed as extreme and totally unreasonable.
Mark
Delta
I appreciate the tone and civility but I really don't see how the Delta proposal is seen as extreme. Relative position with modifications for our aircraft orders and your possible aircraft parkings doesn't seem extreme. I have heard of NW guys figuring they stand to lose approx 1-4% on relative position under the Delta proposal and if you take most or all of that out in the final iteration after "negotiating", isn't retaining your current NW relative position at the new Delta fair and reasonable? Remember, because of our much higher % of widebody/intl flying than NWA, your retained relative position at Delta will be much more valuable, not to mention the payraises. I just can't understand how this could be viewed as extreme and totally unreasonable.
Mark
Delta
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
