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B7ER Guy 10-29-2008 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 488009)
Never said that NWALPA gets to decide. The date of constructive notice has been one of the important timelines in almost every past merger. Our date is April 14, 2008. The arbitrators will decide what to do with all pilots hired after that date.

Carl

Carl:
What does it matter to you? Aren't you and 1000 of your closest friends leaving?

tsquare 10-29-2008 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by B7ER Guy (Post 488011)
Carl:
What does it matter to you? Aren't you and 1000 of your closest friends leaving?

That post looks eerily familiar. :cool:

capncrunch 10-29-2008 09:00 AM

Interesting indeed TSquare.....


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 487152)
Just curious Carl... what do you care about any of this anyway? Aren't you and 1000 of your closest friends leaving?


capncrunch 10-29-2008 09:07 AM

I think the NOV retirement numbers will be interesting.

Nosmo King 10-29-2008 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by capncrunch (Post 488059)
I think the NOV retirement numbers will be interesting.

I think the October 29 retirement numbers will be interesting in light of DOJ approval ...

2themoon 10-29-2008 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 487500)
That's funny, because DALs proposed list put me nowhere near my current seniority. I moved down considerably. And the most junior DAL guy ended up with 400 guys underneath him, shooting him right up the list. That seems very fair.:rolleyes:


Did I say anything about the proposed DAL list? I think the DAL is closer to being fair but needs work as you have pointed out. Everyone has in their mind a list that they would like for them self but also knows what a fair list is. We just need to be a little more honest with ourselves.

2themoon 10-29-2008 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by flyguy1 (Post 487592)
I hope you understand why there is a disparity. You have seen you windfall due to past retirements, and we would be seeing ours over the next 5-7 years. No NWA pilot wants to lose that "pot of gold" that should be in our future....not yours.


The great NWA urban legend of the early retirements. Wrong. Yes we had guys leave early but the numbers were smaller NWA pilots think and also not all from the top. In addition, DAL retired L1011s, MD-11s, B767-200s, B767-300s, B727s and 737-200s during that time and that brought seat stagnation for most and furloughs to many others. It has been only recently with the new aircraft arriving that there has been seat movement. I'm still waiting for my "pot of gold" too.

capncrunch 10-29-2008 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by 2themoon (Post 488197)
The great NWA urban legend of the early retirements.

50% of NWAs list is over 50 years of age, it is definitely legendary. I'm not surprised you try to minimize this....

Eric Stratton 10-29-2008 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by capncrunch (Post 488267)
50% of NWAs list is over 50 years of age, it is definitely legendary. I'm not surprised you try to minimize this....

I think he was talking about delta's early retirements a few years back...

tsquare 10-29-2008 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by capncrunch (Post 488267)
50% of NWAs list is over 50 years of age, it is definitely legendary. I'm not surprised you try to minimize this....

Why do you try to make a big deal out of it? Age has never been a determinant of any kind of seniority list... has it?


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