Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 487489)

No, just published, unsecret documents. Check the "Acceptance of Seniority List" document. It overrides this section, with the caveot that it applies only to the DAL/NWA merger. Nu
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Originally Posted by Ferd149 (Post 487559)

I thought this was an interesting little ditty in the letter we got from the merger committee this week:

>>The process will move on after we have a chance to catch a short break and see our families, but the exact path to a merged list is uncertain. As the Arbitrators suggested at the end of the hearings last Thursday, SLI negotiations between us and the Delta Merger Committee may resume again soon. The arbitration panel has offered to mediate, and we may take them up on that offer if the direct talks make that appear promising. Or, we may still end up with an arbitrated award.<<

What is interesting to me (trying to be a dispassionate observer here) in the two lists is how far apart they are, as everyone has pointed out. The difference for me between the two is 909 numbers, that is hudge.

Here is hoping that we can get this thing worked out on our own. It will suck but I think the 3 wise men's list will suck worse.

Ferd

Originally Posted by Cogf16 (Post 486982)

Agreed. I haven't seen the specifics and rationale behind the bottom of the list but I certainly understand the angst of NWA guys. However, the top of the list is even more agregious. Although it is purely my OPINION, I don't think a long, big fence is manageable, realistic or something this group wants to live under. One other thing... as an 87 hire, around 35% or so systemwide %, what can you hold? I am an Aug '88 hire, 22% and hold line holder 767 Capt but could hold a line on 767ER (intl) or junior 767-400 or 777 Capt. A big disparity compared to you guys.

Cog

Originally Posted by flyguy1 (Post 487592)

I hope you understand why there is a disparity. You have seen you windfall due to past retirements, and we would be seeing ours over the next 5-7 years. No NWA pilot wants to lose that "pot of gold" that should be in our future....not yours.

Originally Posted by nwaf16dude (Post 487583)

Hey Ferd, the difference for me is 1490 numbers. How'd you like that one?

Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 487566)

The negotiated lists are not this far apart. They are a lot closer than this.

Originally Posted by flyguy1 (Post 487592)

I hope you understand why there is a disparity. You have seen you windfall due to past retirements, and we would be seeing ours over the next 5-7 years. No NWA pilot wants to lose that "pot of gold" that should be in our future....not yours.

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 485384)

Dont' mean to start a war, but that is a weak spot in the DAL SLI fences. I don't know of any merger where the arbitrator didn't treat post constructive notice pilots differently than pre constructive notice. In the DAL SLI proposal, some post constructive notice DAL pilots are senior to NWA pre constructive notice pilots. If the arbitrators agreed to that, I think it would be the first time.

Originally Posted by Reroute (Post 487949)

NALPA doesn't get to unilaterally determine who is, or is not a post constructive notice pilot. I'm sure that it is the position of DALPA that pilots who were interviewed and offered employment prior to April 14 are not post constructive notice pilots.