tomgoodman

Airlines can not disregard binding arbitration, any more than they can escape from a binding contrac....oh, wait...never mind.

GW258

While a company use to be able to abuse the BK laws for that purpose, not anymore.

GW258

Don't they already do that with contracts? Look around, they have been using the arbitration/mediation system for years to avoid compliance with pilot contracts.

AirWhisky31

This arbitration was simply a step in a internal union policy, it was not legislatively required by law, nor was it by court order, and unlike union/company arbitration, is not governed by the RLA.

It was simply part of a policy of a union that was replaced, and thus the policies were replaced.

There was nothing legally required about it and only had meaning as condition of membership. No different than being in a country club, being unsatisfied with the benefit of membership and taking your money elsewhere.

USAPA still has obligation as any union to its member but as it says in the ruling, an obligation to both East and West. When and if there is a lawsuit down the road, it will be judged on its own merit and only as it relates to finding an acceptable solution to all of its members. Unions are given a latitude to operate within a "wide range of reasonableness" in creating and administering polices. Longevity based integrations have never been overturned in a DFR case. So, it is likely that USAPA with a DOH policy + the 10 year conditions and restrictions proposed protecting all the West Captain jobs and rights to upgrade into them out of seniority and immediate access to East flying by DOH will likely be found within a "wide range of reasonableness."

Scoop

The only thing that has even a fighting chance to ever solve this case with finality is the most powerful force that there is. The one thing that nothing, not even a high powered legal team can stop .........time. Eventually the more senior Pilots on both sides will hit 65, start retiring and slowly, very slowly, over time the group dynamics may change.

Scoop

GW258

That obviously did not convince a federal appeals court. In other words, it was not that simple.

OrionTanker

I believe the age 65 ruling will kick in around December of 2012. It has affected my company (SWA) big time. Every airline has had some sort of problems with it. I am with Scoop, this will only help US Airways in several years.....

Good Luck.

eaglefly

Considering U's present and future financial situation, it would be fairly easy for them to use the BK laws PROPERLY to regain operational control of their airline from the hostage situation currently being waged by infantile idiots.

I think it's already overdue.............it's time for Parker to either grow a pair and take back his airline or chop it up and part out the assets sans employees.

AirWhisky31

Actually US Airways financial performance in the 1st qtr was better than UAL or CAL and they had an operating profit, despite the greatest impact to their system by the winter's Noreasters. Their unrestricted cash increased by over 100 million. They are projected to make Net profits of 160 million and 125 million in the 2nd and 3rd quarter respectively with annual profits of around 300 million for 2010 and 400 million in 2011. Anything can change but Parker won't be able to play that card for at least the next several years absent an unknown event.

GW258

You seem to be emotional about this but LCC can't do BK for what you describe. I wish there was a pilot group in control of thier profession but I don't think it is the east LCC folks since thier contract is so poor.

You ever thought Parker approves of the east folks position since he benefits from it on the cost side? He doesn't care about the first pilot's career on that property.

You folks got the wrong enemy in your sights! "infantile idiots", how silly is that?