You are missing the point. I know you have a mandatory section and it is 5-B-9 Hotel Criteria.

The problem we are talking about is specific to section 5-B-11 Preferable Provisions...

5-B-11-a When the Company enters into any contract with a hotel to
provide lodging to pilots for their overnights (including split
duty), overnights for training and on temporary duty
assignment, that hotel contract will preferably contain all or
some of the following criteria:

5-B-11-a-(1) A functioning safety lock box
5-B-11-a-(2) Fitness center
5-B-11-a-(3) Refrigerator available in each room.
5-B-11-a-(4) Microwave available in each room or in a crew lounge.
5-B-11-a-(5) Complimentary breakfast and/or “Grab-and-go” for
early morning departures.
5-B-11-a-(6) Crew discount on food and beverage if the hotel has a
dining facility.
5-B-11-a-(7) Complimentary local transportation to attractions
within a reasonable distance mutually agreed upon
with hotel.
5-B-11-a-(8) Ability to accumulate rewards points and or night stay
credits in specific hotel programs on all incidental
charges.
5-B-11-a-(9) Pet free hotel.

Again, that word means they don't have to give you a single one of these 9 items. I will repeat, change the wording so it reads

5-B-11-a When the Company enters into any contract with a hotel to
provide lodging to pilots for their overnights (including split
duty), overnights for training and on temporary duty
assignment, that hotel contract will contain all or
at a minimum of (5) of the following criteria:"

Or 4 or 6 or whatever you think would make the pilot group happy.

 

5-B-11-a-(9) Pet free hotel.

This should be in the Hotel Criteria section. Who wants pet fur on their cloths or to hear dogs barking.

As for 5-B-11-a
You could add more to this section like a pool, hot tub, etc so you have more options the company can choose from but still have to give you a set number.

You guys have done vast improvements to these sections but unfortunately one word can bring it all crashing down.

 

This is the only place the word Preferable works because the union would have to willingly waive it for a hotel they know is better.

5-B-12 The Company and the Association’s Hotel Committee may
mutually agree to waive any of the requirements set forth in
paragraphs 5-B-9 above and 5-B-11 above in order to secure a
preferable hotel property

 

Aha...that's the one I was looking for originally. Thanks!

 

I would vote Go.....like.....go someplace else.

I'm of the opinion that unfortunately in the end JO will win. He won't sign anything that is industry standard or a win/win. It's not in his DNA and he plays by a different set of rules. You deserve better than anything he'll offer now and a possible future at Spirit Airlines. There are much, much better places to work that need you!

 

You make it sound so easy. Just go someplace else like all we have to do is pick a place. Many of us have our apps out and many of us hear nothing. Should we just quit and hope someone calls us? It's easier to get a job when you have a job and that is really applicable when it comes to pilots even if you work for Mesa. You are stating the obvious and it has been stated over and over by many before.

 

Theres a difference between having apps out, and a desire to go anywhere else. You had a response from Omni?, and you made a decision that it wasn't going to be a higher QOL for your situation. Fair enough.
I will suggest however that it is very hard at the regional level to actually know what's better. Regional pilots know a certain lifestyle that they grow comfortable with. When I was at Mesa, I swore I'd never do long haul. Now that I am doing it, I swear I'll never go back to domestic short haul. In fact, the thought of domestic overnights puts a bad taste in my mouth. I had to try it to have formed this opinion. I wanted Spirit, Frontier, Jet Blue, South West when I worked at Mesa. Now, that type of flying seems too close to regional flying, just something I want nothing to do with.
The good news is that any move will provide more for you than anything JO will ever offer.

 

"We agree that new hire bonuses are discouraging to pilots on property, however due to the Railway Labor Act, there is very little we can do about New Hire Bonuses. This isn’t just our problem, it’s every regional airlines’ problem. Until a pilot finishes IOE, ALPA has no control over what the company can offer them. This LOA does not allow management to pay “whoever they want,” that is what management is currently doing with their bonus programs. This LOA states that if one pilot of a group is offered a retention bonus, ALL pilots of said group will be offer the SAME retention bonus."

This isn't clear to me. The new hire bonuses, specifically the 30k and 22.5k for ejet and crj respectively are indeed paid AFTER the completion of IOE. It says right on the company website and elsewhere.

Also, what you're saying is the LOA assuming the TA passes should effectively end all of the new hire bonuses. Certainly they're not going to pay every pilot on property the same bonuses they've been paying to the recent new hires, so they'll just do away with the bonuses altogether. Is that right?

 

You misunderstood my comment. Go to another regional with better pay, real medical insurance, etc.

 

Careful with your answer, he was referencing a pilot on reserve with this example. I think your answer is for a line holder with a canceled flight. Correct me if I'm wrong

Also, by 13-n-12-b, does this mean getting done a reserve assignment a pilot can be put on ready reserve? I didn't think we could mix assignments like that.