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04-02-2018, 10:06 AM

#21

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Originally Posted by Itsajob

Why the long training footprint? Are applicants requiring more time to get up to speed than the standard syllabus calls for creating a backlog, or is it high volume and not enough simulators? It seems that a lot of regionals are taking a long time to get someone through the machine.

It is SIMs. All regionals are having this trouble. We just happen to pay them while they wait rather than putting new hires into a future class date when SIM time is available.

04-02-2018, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by NovemberBravo

Idk why you guys are up in arms about the long training like someone said before go on a trip or go home and relax just leave your phone on. Hotels are slightly better but still suck. More junior assignments but you can say no if you have something to do just have a backbone. And no 4 hr sits but definitely a handful of 3 and 4 hr sits but not as bad as last year.

Or, just don’t answer the phone for junior assignments when the company calls. I know one guy that has the company blocked on his iPhone and only listens to the messages after they call.

The struggle with training has been we haven’t grown the staff on the line, only the number of aircraft. It isn’t for a lack of candidates, it is because our training department lacked foresight and planning. Then, we sat 4 airplanes because of a lack of pilots. United can’t be happy with that.

Anyway, I am looking forward to Havana flights. There. That is something positive.

04-02-2018, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by MagPBS

There are no sits scheduled more then 4 hours in any location. And yes the 4 more then 4 hour rule for hotels is anywhere. (5-B-1).

Is it possible to sit more then 4 hours? Sure turn cancels or something. But that's not scheduled. The statement was we schedule sits in excess of 4 hours. We do not.

I would LOVE to send u an example followed by numerous failed attempts to get said hotel. Even the head of the union told me sits in base don’t apply....

04-02-2018, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by MagPBS

Ummmm..... yeah ya do!!! And ur union doesn’t seem to care when a card carrying paying union member needs help.... no answer no call back!!

04-02-2018, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by MagPBS

Unfortunately you don’t know what ur company does to its pilots....

04-02-2018, 11:45 AM

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[QUOTE=MagPBS;2563246]"Amazing, every word you just said....was wrong".

1. There are no sits greater then 4 hours. You see a pairing that was built with a longer sit, prove it.

2. You sit more then 4 hours you get a hotel. Read the contract.

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And when u quote the contract scheduling still tells u no.... call out fat, get a lovely email from ur chief pilot..... please, please tell me NONE of this didn’t happen!! I will kiss JO’s ass!!!!

04-02-2018, 11:50 AM

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Pm me ANYTIME... and I will give u proof of everything. Even the lack of giving a shot by a union rep.....

04-02-2018, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MagPBS

"Amazing, every word you just said....was wrong".

1. There are no sits greater then 4 hours. You see a pairing that was built with a longer sit, prove it.

2. You sit more then 4 hours you get a hotel. Read the contract.

3. Nothing is built to max duty day due to buffers.

..The contract means nothing to MAG-management..748 pilots left the company in 2007 for this reason..Just ask your senior reps..JO is still there, so you can expect nothing less..

04-03-2018, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by B757

..The contract means nothing to MAG-management..748 pilots left the company in 2007 for this reason..Just ask your senior reps..JO is still there, so you can expect nothing less..

Our senior reps have Stockholm Syndrome. They don’t care about the younger pilots because they have enough seniority to get whatever they want. They start to sympathize with management. They are the company’s biggest defenders.

04-03-2018, 05:14 AM

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The company just gave back 1000 hrs of flying in which rjet got and is now based there. Look for the trickling of pilots to begin to stream as Mesa gives less and less about the contract and the people it represents. And of course The “union” will do nothing for u....get out NOW!!!