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Old 09-13-2018, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by P Owed Captain View Post
Sounds like these people in BMI don't need our service, then. They should drive a little bit and go out of another airport and stop wasting our time.
I have seen some pilot's statements of entitlement before, but this one takes the cake. Congratulations!
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Old 09-13-2018, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon View Post
You know that’s not how any of this works right? You aren’t providing service. American is. You gave up the right to pick and choose where you fly and how long you stay there when you agreed to a FFD agreement with them.
We agreed to fly airplanes - with passengers - for a professional wage.

Sitting in some God-forsaken city for a day and a half while not getting paid is bad enough . . . but throw in the regional pay scales, and suddenly the term 'screwed' isn't strong enough.

We are getting FLEECED as regional pilots.

We are losing YEARS of professional pilot wages while we play this game.

Reread the definition of the Stockholm Syndrome . . . because as a regional pilot, I see it on a daily basis.

It's beyond embarrassing what we've allowed them to do to us. One guy starts a thread voicing his concern, and now you're taking a shot at him?

Take it from someone who has been in this industry for a long, long time -

NONE OF THIS IS ACCEPTABLE

Wake the hell up . . .
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Old 09-13-2018, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Brody View Post
We agreed to fly airplanes - with passengers - for a professional wage.

Sitting in some God-forsaken city for a day and a half while not getting paid is bad enough . . . but throw in the regional pay scales, and suddenly the term 'screwed' isn't strong enough.

We are getting FLEECED as regional pilots.

We are losing YEARS of professional pilot wages while we play this game.

Reread the definition of the Stockholm Syndrome . . . because as a regional pilot, I see it on a daily basis.

It's beyond embarrassing what we've allowed them to do to us. One guy starts a thread voicing his concern, and now you're taking a shot at him?

Take it from someone who has been in this industry for a long, long time -

NONE OF THIS IS ACCEPTABLE

Wake the hell up . . .
Don’t like sitting around all day not getting paid? Then go to a regional with trip rigs. All regionals suck, but you do get some choice in the flavor of suck.

This isn’t some conspiracy that Mesa scheduling is pulling, American dictates the flying and frequency. Don’t like it? then take it up with American or fight for rigs.

I’m never pro regional or pro company but don’t waste your time complaining over things you have 0 power or leverage to change when there are plenty of issues you can make some progress on.

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Old 09-13-2018, 02:04 PM
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I’m mainly commenting on the schedules. I’ve researched and talked with other regional pilots. Our pairings and schedules are superior to most. Our contract is far from the worst. We could have jr assignments or a contract that the company just ignores as is the case at some regionals.


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Then why such a brutal contract - after years of negotiations? Where the starting F/O pay actually decreases?

It's not black helicopter-ing . . . it's that deer-in-the-headlights look when your 'union' just recommended voting 'yes' on a contract that's the laughing stock of the Regional industry.

We're jaded and angry because the only thing our MEC seems to get excited about it making sure our 'union' dues are extracted from our paychecks in a timely manner.

After that - 'meh . . .'

I've been in this industry for a long time - and have seen a lot of things. I can honestly say I haven't seen anything that comes close to how weak our MEC is. Your results (or lack thereof) tend to breed mistrust and suspicion among the rank-and-file.

For Christ's sake, we're flying American and United's passengers for peanut wages, little-or-no medical/dental benefits, and crappy schedules. And you expect us to accept this a NORMAL???

Don't throw this in OUR laps . . . our MEC put us here. If you expect us to be quiet about it, you're delusional.

For everyone's sake . . . grow a pair!!
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Old 09-13-2018, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by pangolin View Post
I’m mainly commenting on the schedules. I’ve researched and talked with other regional pilots. Our pairings and schedules are superior to most. Our contract is far from the worst. We could have jr assignments or a contract that the company just ignores as is the case at some regionals.
Stockholm Syndrome.

Wake up . . . . . . . . . . . .
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Old 09-13-2018, 06:13 PM
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Over 28 hour sit gets you 2 hours of credit. Not a complete waste of time, but close
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Old 09-13-2018, 10:07 PM
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Download tinder, swipe right on everyone, go on a date, get smashed, layover 👌🏻
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Old 09-14-2018, 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Brody View Post
Stockholm Syndrome.

Wake up . . . . . . . . . . . .
I didn’t say it was good. Just not the worst.
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Old 09-14-2018, 06:55 AM
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At least Brody gets it!
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Old 09-14-2018, 06:57 AM
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Download tinder, swipe right on everyone, go on a date, get smashed, layover 👌🏻
You sound very professional.

Some of us are happily married and don't wish to cheat.
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