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Old 03-01-2019 | 06:12 PM
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This might be the case for some, not the majority. Plenty of top notch pilots at Mesa.
I know of 3 one failed from republic the others multiple incidents and Checkride failures.
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Old 03-01-2019 | 07:08 PM
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This might be the case for some, not the majority. Plenty of top notch pilots at Mesa.
Mesa pilots are some of the best pilots I have ever met.
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Old 03-02-2019 | 03:45 AM
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There are great guys at every company, I’ve been thankful for Mesa jumpseats/crews in the past, but don’t go there until your options elsewhere are exhausted.


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Old 03-02-2019 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by bababouey
There are great guys at every company, I’ve been thankful for Mesa jumpseats/crews in the past, but don’t go there until your options elsewhere are exhausted.


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This is rather a unique time in aviation where people actually get multiple offers and can "choose" their regional. This was not the case when I was hired at Mesa, nor the case for anyone there hired 2013-2014ish and before. I was never able to hand pick any aviation job, it was always an "opportunity" I had to jump on.
Is Mesa more willing to give people a chance? Certainly, and I am glad for it. I only had 100 hours of currency in the past six months when I was hired.
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Old 03-02-2019 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by No Land 3
This is rather a unique time in aviation where people actually get multiple offers and can "choose" their regional. This was not the case when I was hired at Mesa, nor the case for anyone there hired 2013-2014ish and before. I was never able to hand pick any aviation job, it was always an "opportunity" I had to jump on.
Is Mesa more willing to give people a chance? Certainly, and I am glad for it. I only had 100 hours of currency in the past six months when I was hired.
Mesa offers a job - not a career.

Keep paying fast-food wages, make it nearly impossible to adjust one's schedule, and become an airline that very few legacies (or other upper-echelon carriers) hire from . . . and boom - this is now your career.

You have to REALLY love flying to do this job for (almost) free - AND know that you may end up stuck here.

Times have changed. Regionals no longer have a storage room full of applications that they can threaten you with.
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Old 03-02-2019 | 04:13 PM
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You are entirely incorrect about any stigma coming from working at Mesa. There is none.
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Old 03-02-2019 | 04:37 PM
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You are entirely incorrect about any stigma coming from working at Mesa. There is none.
No one said anything about a stigma (unless I missed it). I doubt there's any kind of stigma attached.

I just find it more than just interesting that so few Mesa pilots get hired by legacies - or SWA, Fedex, UPS, etc.

I seem to recall an ALPA rep. proving this a year or so ago - and taking a ton of heat for doing so. If it's not a stigma - then it's intentional.

It's collusion.

Because it sure-as-hell isn't a result of chance
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Old 03-03-2019 | 02:37 AM
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Mesa is an opportunity like anywhere else. Get your time and experience, and move on. No one gets "stuck." People decide to stay or pass up other opportunities thinking they will be better off. You are only going to settle for the "big five?" That's your decision, just remember that it used to be the "big eight" or what ever, and they had flight engineer positions to fill as well.
Fewer airlines to move into, with fewer positions available. In the past people had far more choices and thus more chance of moving into mainline.
Self reflection and a willingness to try something completely different to escape the regionals is well advised for those who want out of it.
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Old 03-03-2019 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by No Land 3
Mesa is an opportunity like anywhere else. Get your time and experience, and move on. No one gets "stuck." People decide to stay or pass up other opportunities thinking they will be better off. You are only going to settle for the "big five?" That's your decision, just remember that it used to be the "big eight" or what ever, and they had flight engineer positions to fill as well.
Fewer airlines to move into, with fewer positions available. In the past people had far more choices and thus more chance of moving into mainline.
Self reflection and a willingness to try something completely different to escape the regionals is well advised for those who want out of it.
Try going to a heart surgeon who makes 30K a year - but when he got into the medicine field, he expected to make at least 300K. Sure, he could change horses midstream and do something else. It's not what he spent the better part of his life training to do.

Our skills are worth a LOT more then what they pay us at the Regionals. It's people like you who justify this - that keep the rest of us down.

Maybe you should try something different? Then you wouldn't be in the way of the rest of us who are trying to make a living commensurate with our experience and education
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Old 03-03-2019 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by No Land 3
Mesa is an opportunity like anywhere else. Get your time and experience, and move on. No one gets "stuck." People decide to stay or pass up other opportunities thinking they will be better off. You are only going to settle for the "big five?" That's your decision, just remember that it used to be the "big eight" or what ever, and they had flight engineer positions to fill as well.
Fewer airlines to move into, with fewer positions available. In the past people had far more choices and thus more chance of moving into mainline.
Self reflection and a willingness to try something completely different to escape the regionals is well advised for those who want out of it.
That’s no ****ing excuse to justify the ridiculous pay. We are flying mainline routes and their passengers with the mainline name painted on the side!!! Why does the mainline crew at the gate next door deserve 3-4x the pay we make to fly the exact same route???
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