Paid2fly

Extremely alarming!

Paid2fly

"Accidentally"...sounds like they are doing a great job(of your usual undercutting)!

propellere

Union and Management are buddy buddy. That’s how you get to be in management right? Get voted in, get close to management so you can get an office/flying job and larger salary right? Haven’t been here long enough, but wasn’t KW MEC chair back in the day?

NovemberBravo

That makes it even worse

boxthrower

What do you expect when they hire a bunch of second rate pilots that didn’t make it through training at reputable regionals

GoFaster

Mesa’s far from perfect, but every time I read something like this it reminds me just how thankful I am to be here flying with these good folks. Keep it classy!


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propellere

Let’s be respectful now. There are plenty of us who were flying jets or heavies in the military and are here at Mesa. A regional is a regional. There is no such thing as a reputable regional. People that need a 2nd try getting through initial training generally are people that were not trained well enough prior to coming into the airlines or not current in flying. The people that struggle just need a little more help transitioning. Not everyone can jump from Cessna to a multi crew jet in 10 sims. Those who have experience from the service or corporate flying jets have a massive advantage. Just like the guys who came into the service with CFI/MEI/CFII and ATP’s, where most of us had 0 hours. Food for thought. No need to hurl insults.

terks43

Get bent. You’re a classless loser. I chose Mesa because it’s the only one I could guarantee not having to commute. Guess what loser? I haven’t had to commute a single day in my career. Now get lost. Completely classless, glad I never have to share a cockpit with total tools like you.

Throwitaway

Living in base is a great reason to fly for Mesa. But I have a serious question, what has Mesa done (and when) to raise the bar for pilots in the regional industry? I'm genuinely curious. When have they led and in which area? As the saying goes, "a rising tide lifts all ships". When has Mesa raised the tide?

I won't broadly label all Mesa pilots to be flunkies or poor aviators. I know more than a few who are either employed at Mesa currently or have moved on. Most are fine aviators, a couple others are horrible pilots and deserving so, flunked out of prior training class just to wind up at Mesa. Failure and mistakes happen to good pilots everywhere. But because of their interview process and hiring practices, there is credence when saying in jest that if you fail at your current job or have some blemish on your record that makes you unhirable, "there's always Mesa". Don't take it personal.

Also understand that when Mesa pilots make posts saying that they are the best situated pilot group to endure the covid downturn because they are the cheapest labor group, I interpret that as Mesa being the concrete anklets drowning the collective regional pilot group as a whole. It's not something to be proud of and it's been that way for a very long time.

terks43

Thats fair enough. Believe me, I’ve pushed for this union to be better. All you have to do is look at my post history. I’m tired of this MEC being in bed with management at the very top.