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Old 04-04-2021, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by pangolin View Post
The planes get fixed. They are safe. But they don’t take one out if service until they HAVE to. And then it screws the schedule.
That's a company business practice, again not in violation of the MX program. The post I replied was making it appear that the company just applied the MEL and never bothered to do the repair.
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Yep, many more times than you skippy.

But the post I referred to says they just MEL everything and don't fix it.

Doesn't work that way. But you knew that, I hope.

That’s not something to be proud of, sport.
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That’s not something to be proud of, sport.
Instead of deflecting skippy try staying on topic.
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Old 04-04-2021, 04:49 PM
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The MX program is "blessed" by the FAA (as you put it) because it meets the criteria set forth in the orders and guidance.

How the company applies it is their business as long as they don't violate the agreement. If someone could point out what exactly your airline is doing that doesn't comply with their approved MX program, I'm sure the FAA would listen.
If you are disagreeing with what I said, are you then advocating MESA is rolling 30 day deferrals to day 29 because it “meets the criteria set forth in the orders and guidance” (as you put it)?
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If you are disagreeing with what I said, are you then advocating MESA is rolling 30 day deferrals to day 29 because it “meets the criteria set forth in the orders and guidance” (as you put it)?
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I'm not advocating anything. The MEL has provisions that set time frames for the item to be repaired. If an item is written up and then allowed 30 days to be repaired, and the company for whatever reason waits to day 29 to repair and clear the discrepancy, then accordingly they haven't done anything wrong.

The MMEL sets forth the criteria, and the operator can use that or be more restrictive.
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Originally Posted by TommyDevito View Post
I'm not advocating anything. The MEL has provisions that set time frames for the item to be repaired. If an item is written up and then allowed 30 days to be repaired, and the company for whatever reason waits to day 29 to repair and clear the discrepancy, then accordingly they haven't done anything wrong.

The MMEL sets forth the criteria, and the operator can use that or be more restrictive.
And as I said if MESA was deliberately flying broken planes in and out of mx bases for 29 days deferring mx until day 29 as a cost savings technique, then the FAA would have already come down on them for that practice as they have other operators in the past. As I stated I don’t think they are doing that, but instead are poorly executing.
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Old 04-04-2021, 07:27 PM
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So how does an airline do that? Does the write up and the MEL'd item just disappear? Does the problem magically fix itself?

Or are you implying the item is MEL'd, and never fixed? If so, how is the airline getting around the time requirements?

I'll wait on your answer.
Every now and then the internet warriors make an appearance. Now I’m no expert, buuuut shot in the dark, I’d say he was exaggerating. You don’t actually think a pilot believes his airline literally doesn’t fix the planes they fly do you?
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Originally Posted by Swarley View Post
Every now and then the internet warriors make an appearance. Now I’m no expert, buuuut shot in the dark, I’d say he was exaggerating. You don’t actually think a pilot believes his airline literally doesn’t fix the planes they fly do you?
You'd be surprised how many pilots have no idea how an MEL actually works.
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You'd be surprised how many pilots have no idea how an MEL actually works.
Yeah no. You’re either really gullible, or you just love being the internet douche that feels the need to come to the rescue whenever a sarcastic or exaggerated comment is made. I’m assuming the latter. Internet tough guys are always the funnest to watch.
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Originally Posted by Swarley View Post
Yeah no. You’re either really gullible, or you just love being the internet douche that feels the need to come to the rescue whenever a sarcastic or exaggerated comment is made. I’m assuming the latter. Internet tough guys are always the funnest to watch.
Nope, not any of the above.

It's fun watching people making ridiculous claims on forums then they are unable to back them up when questioned and provided facts.
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