Luv2Rotate

Bottom line, more pilots will be out on the street... The ANG looks more appealing as the days pass.

AirWillie

That explains why they're going to send those CRJs not doing anything in Phoenix on company suicide missions to Hawaii. Now instead of losing money in moderation, they will be losing a lot more. As I have said before, the day they send more CRJs to Hawaii is the beginning of the end for Mesa. At least the road to bankruptcy.

Luv2Rotate

They should just send the Dash's that would make more sense in that market compared to CRJ's

TheDashRocks

[quote=JetJock16;621291]If you're going to compare then you're doing it incorrectly.

Mesa: 1446ish pilots, 130 currently on “F” for a %age of 9%.

XJT: 2725ish pilots, 335 on “F” for a %age of 12%.

Good post. I allowed myself to get drug into another "my regional is better than yours" debate. I regretted my post before the "enter" key recoiled.

Mesa haters come in three groups. Those who have never worked here, those who used to work here, those who now work here. I will try to limit my posts to correcting what I feel are misconceptions by the first group. I like the people I fly with very much. I want my company to do well. I will be in the next batch of furloughs. Yet, given my specific personal situation, I would not choose to go back in time and fly for another regional.

The Dash Whisperer

JetJock16

Were you a street Captain?

There are too many Mesa haters out there who just don't understand that Mesa's pilots have no control over their company’s current situation and Ornstein’s past shady business deals. Yes the majority showed no spine when it came to the last TA vote but that's where it stops. Hell, we at SKW have shown just as much of a backbone when it came to our pay contracts as well. The only true difference is that SKW is ran by one of our industries best CEO's.

I am not a Mesa hater; I'm an Ornstein hater, just like I'm a Hulas and Hoeksema (MEH) hater as well.

TheDashRocks

[quote=JetJock16;622395]Were you a street Captain?

No, just very lucky. I was hired just in the nick of time. Many FO's did not have ATP fours; I did and was able to upgrade after six months. This was the last upgrade class at Mesa. All of the training since has been recurrent or displacement.


There are too many Mesa haters out there who just don't understand that Mesa's pilots have no control over their company’s current situation and Ornstein’s past shady business deals. Yes the majority showed no spine when it came to the last TA vote but that's where it stops.

I felt the contract was worth a "yes". I do not feel that the MEC or pilots have been spineless. I think it is easy to overlook the importance of eating some crappy language in order to eliminate a non-union alter ego carrier.

It would have been awesome to go from a marginal contract to a regional leading contract. I just do not think it was realistic to expect this. The economy and the RLA made this an impossible feat.

Hell, we at SKW have shown just as much of a backbone when it came to our pay contracts as well. The only true difference is that SKW is ran by one of our industries best CEO's.

SKW is clearly a good company. The high morale and financial state are indications of a well run organization. However, I cannot help but feel that SKW pilots benefit from working in a heavily unionized industry without having to pay union dues. SKW leadership is commited to keeping a pilot Union off the property. Any improvements won by ASA will be matched at SKW.

CRJPlt

If you were in the last upgrade class, shouldn't you have been downgraded by now?

t207

The dash rocks will be furloughed first, his downgrade is at the end of July.

SpiraMirabilis

Ah, I've flown with Dash Rocks

TonyWilliams

I think Dash 8-Q400 captain spots may still be available in Africa. $8000 salary monthly, all expense paid. Brand new planes.