PilotMechanic

I was just referring to regional aircraft in general. I used to work on Mesa aircraft and I know what you mean, definitely not new.

PermaFo

A little too quiet recently on the 170 rumor. Anyone care to share what they've been hearing?

squall line

I've heard more 170 talk this last week flying than all of last month. Feds and training dept all seem to think its a done deal. A few people at UAL have echo'd the same. Just no official announcement. As with anything, ill believe it when I see it, but it seems like it will become reality very soon.

oicur12

Hey all,

Can anybody provide some insight to expected lines for a new hire FO?

Days off, start finish times etc. Is PHX possible for a new hire and is commuting do-able?

Any info would be appreciated.

PerpetualFlyer

Hahaha, this guy! Good luck with getting any of that.

PermaFo

Reserve/line holding is 11 days off a month. RSV 12 hour per day. Trips rarely commutable on both ends, usually one end or neither. PHX is 5-6 year seniority. Union is almost useless, management is abusive. Don't come this way.

sulkair

new fo cant hold phx, it is the most senior base. Hawaii, is most jr. But guys should be able to bid out pretty quickly as long as hiring continues, or avoid it if toward the top of a new hire class. CLT, IAD, or ORD is realistically where you will end up. They all have similar seniority at the bottom.

Schedules on the mainland for a new FO will be reserve with 11 days off per month. You can bid between 3 to 6 days on, with minimum of 2 days off between. However, being jr, you may not get the days you request and could get stretches of 6 days on randomely with 2,3,4 off between.

Rsv Shifts are 0400 to 1600. Or 1200 to 2400 or 1900 to 0700

They go in seniority of 0400 most jr, 1900 most sr.

Plan to fly everyday you are on, or to sit airport ready reserve which is usually an 8 hour shift.

Reserve will be built onto the end of every trip. So if you are a noon to midnight guy and you finish up a trip at 4pm, you will be put back on rsv until 12 hours beyond your start time of that day. If that makes sense.

You will fly on average 40 to 60 hours a month because rsv is not super efficient. And if you live in base you may get a fair amount of nights at home btween back to back shorter trips or turns.

Commuting in any way shape or form on rsv will be a challenge. Guys do it, but if you need to be home because of kids or something it will be miserable.

When you are able to hold a line, commuting wont be much easier because junior lineholders are getting the same 11 days off a month.

If you move to the base, life wont be too bad, you may even get a day or two where you dont get called, from time to time.

Training dept in my opinion is phenominal, always has been.

Chief pilots ARE on your side and will bend over backward if you dont lie to them.

Ipad jepps buy your own ipad. Imho. Worth it.

I cranked this out on ipad so please forgive lack of capitalization, punctuation and spelling. Just wanted to answer for you.

JamesNoBrakes

Do you guys have EFBs approved?

squall line

Yes iPad approved

PermaFo

You get to buy it... And the cover... And the FAA req'd mount. Easily $500 out of a regional pilot's pocket, to come to work. Just like the KCM debacle, you're paying to come to work.

To each their own, and I understand that, but there are a bunch of us not giving in, or helping them out, when we're routinely treated like ****.