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Old 08-18-2013 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Slats
The shedding of 50's will occur yes, but the 175s and MRJs also replace those airframes. I promise the 50s will no go away entirely as OO operates many of them and the Bro on "at Risk" contracts and makes $$$ doing it... Now you want to talk on time performance? Here's last quarters ontime performance ranked by the DOT

1. Hawaiian
2. Frontier
3. Alaska
4. SkyWest

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Now the shear capacity we operate in ie United, Delta, Airways, Alaska and Eagle is pretty impressive. I think Mesa was #16.

I'm uninterested in on time performance as far as Mesa goes as a whole. Go! lacks and Us Air Express side has not done well lately due to implementing new aircraft with no ACARS.

I'm specifically looking at the United Express feed and which regional carrier is consistently the #1 performer. The answer is Mesa. I guarantee management at UAL pays some serious attention to that when awarding new flying.

These aircraft cannot be awarded to OO because OO is not an ALPA airline. I completely forgot about that. These 30 can only be awarded to an ALPA airline.

I'd rather not go back and forth on this subject any longer. We are both only line pilots and it's shaking a crystal ball debating new flying or loss of flying to either Skywest of Mesa.
Old 08-18-2013 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by prior121
I'm uninterested in on time performance as far as Mesa goes as a whole. Go! lacks and Us Air Express side has not done well lately due to implementing new aircraft with no ACARS.

I'm specifically looking at the United Express feed and which regional carrier is consistently the #1 performer. The answer is Mesa. I guarantee management at UAL pays some serious attention to that when awarding new flying.

These aircraft cannot be awarded to OO because OO is not an ALPA airline. I completely forgot about that. These 30 can only be awarded to an ALPA airline.

I'd rather not go back and forth on this subject any longer. We are both only line pilots and it's shaking a crystal ball debating new flying or loss of flying to either Skywest of Mesa.
Just out of curiosity, where does it specifically state they would only go to an ALPA airline?
Old 08-18-2013 | 05:47 PM
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If one was going to make a lateral move to another regional why would you go to Mesa? That's no better than RAH... Also verrryyyy doubtful but don't forget about CP, ALPA ( Don't think that matters for these) and consistently #1 or sometimes #2 in DCI... O and already operates the 175.
Old 08-18-2013 | 05:54 PM
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I hate to see this tread turn into a Skywest is better than Mesa Thread. I think we all acknowledge you guys have one bad ass, b-i-t-c-h-i-n, top of the line regional airline, and all the majors like the product.

That said, some of us occupy seniority numbers at Mesa, and as such we care about our future, as do you at Skywest and all our colleagues at their respective regional airlines.

What point does it serve to try and one-up the other by comparing assets and liabilities. We all suck dude! And the people who pay us - what little they pay us - to carry the responsibilities we carry, count on this mentality, which is pervasive, to keep us divided and play us one against the other.
Old 08-18-2013 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by MrMustache
If one was going to make a lateral move to another regional why would you go to Mesa? That's no better than RAH... Also verrryyyy doubtful but don't forget about CP, ALPA ( Don't think that matters for these) and consistently #1 or sometimes #2 in DCI... O and already operates the 175.
Wasn't lateral. Walked away from the industry all together. Turns out I missed flying.

I take it you've flown at both airlines to make the judgement call that one is no better than the other? I believe I'm here with a unique perspective.

Compass could very well be awarded the flying , however, I too see that very doubtful.
Old 08-18-2013 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by sulkair
I hate to see this tread turn into a Skywest is better than Mesa Thread. I think we all acknowledge you guys have one bad ass, b-i-t-c-h-i-n, top of the line regional airline, and all the majors like the product.

That said, some of us occupy seniority numbers at Mesa, and as such we care about our future, as do you at Skywest and all our colleagues at their respective regional airlines.

What point does it serve to try and one-up the other by comparing assets and liabilities. We all suck dude! And the people who pay us - what little they pay us - to carry the responsibilities we carry, count on this mentality, which is pervasive, to keep us divided and play us one against the other.
Well said. I couldn't agree more.
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Clarification. I don't mean we all suck. Not at all, we are all professionals.

I mean we're all suckin hind teet.
Old 08-18-2013 | 06:02 PM
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I just got my class offer (September) and I am very happy about joining Mesa.

I do have I few questions.
Where is the 900 sim training done?
Any suggestions on study material prior to class?
Old 08-18-2013 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by prydb
I just got my class offer (September) and I am very happy about joining Mesa.

I do have I few questions.
Where is the 900 sim training done?
Any suggestions on study material prior to class?
All training is done at Williams Gateway Airport unless that has changed in the last couple years. The 200/700/900 is the same simulator.

I wouldn't worry to much about studying prior to class, they give you all the info needed to pass the course.

Good Luck
Old 08-18-2013 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Slats
Originally Posted by prior121
I'm uninterested in on time performance as far as Mesa goes as a whole. Go! lacks and Us Air Express side has not done well lately due to implementing new aircraft with no ACARS.

I'm specifically looking at the United Express feed and which regional carrier is consistently the #1 performer. The answer is Mesa. I guarantee management at UAL pays some serious attention to that when awarding new flying.

These aircraft cannot be awarded to OO because OO is not an ALPA airline. I completely forgot about that. These 30 can only be awarded to an ALPA airline.

I'd rather not go back and forth on this subject any longer. We are both only line pilots and it's shaking a crystal ball debating new flying or loss of flying to either Skywest of Mesa.
Just out of curiosity, where does it specifically state they would only go to an ALPA airline?
I would like to know where it says they HAVE to go to an ALPA carrier. I have heard this before but have yet to see proof on it. I agree these 30 e175s are not going to SkyWest, but I am curious about this ALPA thingy
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