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Old 03-13-2015, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Silverwings View Post
When you pass the checkride and get typed in the Ejet with Mesa, why do they limit you to "ERJ-170 ERJ-190 CIRC. APCH. VMC ONLY"?

I am PIC Typed (F/O) in 2 aircraft with another company and never got that, or any, limitations.
I was thinking about going to Mesa to be home based, and I just found this out with a friend who recently got typed there.

What is that all about???
It's because during your check ride they don't have you do a circle to land after an approach, think back to when you first obtained your instrument rating. All types rating through mesa are this way, including my CL-65 rating.
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Old 03-14-2015, 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Fpmx772 View Post
It's because during your check ride they don't have you do a circle to land after an approach, think back to when you first obtained your instrument rating. All types rating through mesa are this way, including my CL-65 rating.
I could be wrong but I believe circle to land maneuvers are not approved in the sim. I have friends at t other regionals and I know for a fact that some, if not all, of their certs show the same.
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Old 03-14-2015, 05:28 AM
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I could be wrong but I believe circle to land maneuvers are not approved in the sim. I have friends at t other regionals and I know for a fact that some, if not all, of their certs show the same.
We did circle to land maneuvers in the Dash 8 sim. I think the main reason for not doing them is they are a pretty risky maneuver and would very rarely be used in line flying, so why train and check them?
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Old 03-14-2015, 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Silverwings View Post
I do not commute, but I'm away from home several weeks at a time. I do not fly for a regional, I fly cargo.



I am interested to know what that is all about.



And yes I might center my decision on whatever I want, I do not tell you what to do with your life, quit being a Dbag!

A few training organizations out there will remove the limitation for you. I believe Pan Am in Florida will do it for around $600 if you bring a partner. A lot of international operators want an unrestricted ATP. I've seen this mentioned on a few China contract job postings.


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Old 03-14-2015, 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by tinman1 View Post
I could be wrong but I believe circle to land maneuvers are not approved in the sim. I have friends at t other regionals and I know for a fact that some, if not all, of their certs show the same.
Circle to land is approved in Sim,s. It is company specific maneuvers required by the faa in ops spec. This is not a big deal.

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Old 03-14-2015, 08:37 AM
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A few training organizations out there will remove the limitation for you. I believe Pan Am in Florida will do it for around $600 if you bring a partner. A lot of international operators want an unrestricted ATP. I've seen this mentioned on a few China contract job postings.


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This circling limitation does not a restricted ATP make. I have an unrestricted ATP with the same circling limitation on my type rating at OO.

I don't have personal experience with the Chinese operators, but it's possible they do circle to land approaches.
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Old 03-14-2015, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by fastback View Post
This circling limitation does not a restricted ATP make. I have an unrestricted ATP with the same circling limitation on my type rating at OO.

I don't have personal experience with the Chinese operators, but it's possible they do circle to land approaches.
He meant unrestricted in the sense that those asian carriers do not want you to have any limitations on your certificate, not like restricted ATP.
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Old 03-14-2015, 09:03 AM
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He meant unrestricted in the sense that those asian carriers do not want you to have any limitations on your certificate, not like restricted ATP.
Fair enough, but not what he said.
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Originally Posted by fastback View Post
This circling limitation does not a restricted ATP make. I have an unrestricted ATP with the same circling limitation on my type rating at OO.



I don't have personal experience with the Chinese operators, but it's possible they do circle to land approaches.

Wow, thanks for clearing that up. Wait...no sh*t.


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Old 03-14-2015, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by fastback View Post
Fair enough, but not what he said.
Context clues bruh....
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