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Old 03-01-2015 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by FaceBiter
Phone interviews for bottom of the barrel applicants flying 70 seaters is a joke.
SO Glad to know i am a bottom of the barrel applicant. So relieved that you have enlightened me about my status!
Old 03-01-2015 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by FaceBiter
Phone interviews for bottom of the barrel applicants flying 70 seaters is a joke.
In the late 80's Northwest Airlines put out ads out in the Star Tribune for pilots, and if you contacted them and met their minimums you were put in class. No interview. Two people in my family were hired that way. So yes, if the demand is there, it will happen at the majors, again.

And it's sort of happening now with the flows... Piedmont for example. If you get hired at Piedmont you allegedly flow to mainline AA with no interview. So guys may not even have a degree, have some skeletons, but if they can manage getting hired by Piedmont, they will get to AA eventually.
You talk like this no interview thing is so ludicrous. You're a broken record.

I hope you stick to your guns though. If United calls you in a couple years and invites you to class without a formal interview, you'll show them by staying at Skywest!! Gotta have principles I guess.
Old 03-01-2015 | 11:10 AM
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I am not saying Mesa pilots are the bottom of the barrel either. Rather, I'm just saying the interview process, or lack thereof, invites people into the company that have no business flying an airliner. Meeting a person face to face can tell you a lot. Not to mention a quick sim ride.
Old 03-01-2015 | 11:12 AM
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I think it's retarted in any context.

For the sake of your argument hiring a current RJ driver with a clean past, training record and education is not nearly the same as hiring a HS dropout with DUI's and 5 check ride failures who has never seen the inside of a cloud and was working at Chuck E Cheese 24 months ago is not the same thing.
Old 03-01-2015 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by 24/48
Just curious, but how would an in person interview complete with written test, Frasca, etc. have prevented Facebitten's situation? A phone interview is not much different than a face-to-face interview, and the interviewer can still gauge the personality type of the interviewee just as they would face-to-face.

This has everything to do with a new-hire making some sort of poor decision and got axed.
I Felt that the interviewer got to know me a lot better than a standard interview. The phone call was two hours long. They ask more personal questions than any other standard interview that i have done. the Frasca sim is a joke if you ask me. Who hasn't played Microsoft flight sim. I have seen a RAH guy crash the sim and was offered the job in a limo ride back to the airport. And you can always find a gouge online for the written test questions. and if you have your ATP you already took those freaking tests anyway. So i don't see how a traditional interview works any better.
Old 03-01-2015 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by FaceBiter
I think it's retarted in any context.

For the sake of your argument hiring a current RJ driver with a clean past, training record and education is not nearly the same as hiring a HS dropout with DUI's and 5 check ride failures who has never seen the inside of a cloud and was working at Chuck E Cheese 24 months ago is not the same thing.
I doubt that any one with that background would make it through training so what does it matter.
Old 03-01-2015 | 11:35 AM
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To be clear I don't care what interview you give me. As long as i am flying and putting food on the table you can make me do hand stand for all i care. I just don't see why it matters.
Old 03-01-2015 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by milehighskyline
I Felt that the interviewer got to know me a lot better than a standard interview. The phone call was two hours long. They ask more personal questions than any other standard interview that i have done. the Frasca sim is a joke if you ask me. Who hasn't played Microsoft flight sim. I have seen a RAH guy crash the sim and was offered the job in a limo ride back to the airport. And you can always find a gouge online for the written test questions. and if you have your ATP you already took those freaking tests anyway. So i don't see how a traditional interview works any better.
To say that a phone interview is basically the same as a face-to-face interview is completely absurd. You just said the test, sim, ect was a joke; well at least you prepared for all that. That tells the company something (so does crashing the sim for that matter). Meeting someone in person can tell you a lot about them. What they're wearing, their manorisms, how they interact with others, ect. I honestly don't understand how you would hire someone to fly your airliner without at least meeting them.
Old 03-01-2015 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by FaceBiter
I think it's retarted in any context.

For the sake of your argument hiring a current RJ driver with a clean past, training record and education is not nearly the same as hiring a HS dropout with DUI's and 5 check ride failures who has never seen the inside of a cloud and was working at Chuck E Cheese 24 months ago is not the same thing.
You are the typical Skywest FO. Bitter and disgruntled. Your description of a Mesa pilot is completely wrong.
Old 03-01-2015 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Coneydog
To say that a phone interview is basically the same as a face-to-face interview is completely absurd. You just said the test, sim, ect was a joke; well at least you prepared for all that. That tells the company something (so does crashing the sim for that matter). Meeting someone in person can tell you a lot about them. What they're wearing, their manorisms, how they interact with others, ect. I honestly don't understand how you would hire someone to fly your airliner without at least meeting them.
But they are going to meet them in person in indoc. And obviously they are weeding people out for one reason or another. They are going to get to know everyone for 3 weeks before sims.
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