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#741
GO TO MESA! IT'S A GREAT DEAL! BECOME A PILOT! 
I'd work at Starbucks before I work for MESA @ its $22.18/hr. rate.
Fly 850 hours a year
Be away from base around 3,500 hours a year
NET hourly rate probably ends up being around $6.50/hr.
Dream of being a pilot now because once you become one, you'll dream of "Wishing you had taken the job at Starbucks."

I'd work at Starbucks before I work for MESA @ its $22.18/hr. rate.
Fly 850 hours a year
Be away from base around 3,500 hours a year
NET hourly rate probably ends up being around $6.50/hr.
Dream of being a pilot now because once you become one, you'll dream of "Wishing you had taken the job at Starbucks."
#742
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From: South Paw
GO TO MESA! IT'S A GREAT DEAL! BECOME A PILOT! 
I'd work at Starbucks before I work for MESA @ its $22.18/hr. rate.
Fly 850 hours a year
Be away from base around 3,500 hours a year
NET hourly rate probably ends up being around $6.50/hr.
Dream of being a pilot now because once you become one, you'll dream of "Wishing you had taken the job at Starbucks."

I'd work at Starbucks before I work for MESA @ its $22.18/hr. rate.
Fly 850 hours a year
Be away from base around 3,500 hours a year
NET hourly rate probably ends up being around $6.50/hr.
Dream of being a pilot now because once you become one, you'll dream of "Wishing you had taken the job at Starbucks."
Last edited by skillett; 11-22-2013 at 11:13 PM. Reason: Bring in female aspect
#743
GO TO MESA! IT'S A GREAT DEAL! BECOME A PILOT! 
I'd work at Starbucks before I work for MESA @ its $22.18/hr. rate.
Fly 850 hours a year
Be away from base around 3,500 hours a year
NET hourly rate probably ends up being around $6.50/hr.
Dream of being a pilot now because once you become one, you'll dream of "Wishing you had taken the job at Starbucks."

I'd work at Starbucks before I work for MESA @ its $22.18/hr. rate.
Fly 850 hours a year
Be away from base around 3,500 hours a year
NET hourly rate probably ends up being around $6.50/hr.
Dream of being a pilot now because once you become one, you'll dream of "Wishing you had taken the job at Starbucks."
#744
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From: South Paw
It's about timing, economics, luck and thought. What was yesterdays darling could be tomorrows bust. Three of four you cannot control.
Last edited by skillett; 11-22-2013 at 11:58 PM.
#745
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1st year regional pay is not pretty, but a starbucks 'barista' doesn't have anywhere CLOSE to the earning potential of a pilot starting a career today. Not even in the same universe. There are a million variables, but this is truly a ridiculous comparison because you really seem to believe it.
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#746
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And truthfully, I have taken a look at what else is out there. And I can't find anything else I would rather do. (Unless going back to college) After being so negative, there're a lot more people who have it worse with no future job progression hopes. But with the time and money invested I believe regional FO pay should be much higher.
#747
And truthfully, I have taken a look at what else is out there. And I can't find anything else I would rather do. (Unless going back to college) After being so negative, there're a lot more people who have it worse with no future job progression hopes. But with the time and money invested I believe regional FO pay should be much higher.
#748
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GO TO MESA! IT'S A GREAT DEAL! BECOME A PILOT! 
I'd work at Starbucks before I work for MESA @ its $22.18/hr. rate.
Fly 850 hours a year
Be away from base around 3,500 hours a year
NET hourly rate probably ends up being around $6.50/hr.
Dream of being a pilot now because once you become one, you'll dream of "Wishing you had taken the job at Starbucks."

I'd work at Starbucks before I work for MESA @ its $22.18/hr. rate.
Fly 850 hours a year
Be away from base around 3,500 hours a year
NET hourly rate probably ends up being around $6.50/hr.
Dream of being a pilot now because once you become one, you'll dream of "Wishing you had taken the job at Starbucks."
The starting pay is low for US regionals, including the $22/hr at Skywest.....much better first yr FO pay at some of the Canadian regionals like Jazz, but many factors involved in that for another discussion.
Unfortunate the 1500 hr rule didn't include a min FO pay "rider" of $30-$40/hr, but the Feds stayed away from that issue....communication with your elected representatives may yield positive results.
For pilots transitioning from 135 (24/7/365) to 121, the "only" 3500 hours a year from base is likely an improvement in QOL.....so is bidding a schedule, 10-12 days off per month, vacation/sick time, salary increases, Captain pay and more.
For someone seeking short term (2-5 yrs) employment, Starbucks or Costco may be the way to go.....for those seeking a career of flying, regional flying is an option, but not a requirement for a pilot career.
#749
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From: Cloud surfing
Don't we all? But as long as regionals offer TPIC, pilots will line up for whatever pay they're offering. As long as regionals command that authority, we will be stuck with the crappy pay. Look at Great Lakes for example... Look at how much their pilots are making yet they still have pilots willing to apply. We are in a way "accepting" the low pay in hopes to get hired by a major or corporate and regionals know that.
#750
Everyone who complains about first year pay I can see doesn't see past the $$$ sign... How about other ways to make money, like your duty rig? 4:1? 2:1? Cancellation pay? Per diem? Upgrade times?, etc... I'm not speaking specifically for Mesa, even though this is a Mesa thread, I'm just pointing out more than just the front page $ sign. Yes, first year pay ANYWHERE you go in the regionals suck. If you don't like it, fix it or deal with it. Just sayin' .
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