Originally Posted by flapshalfspeed

You're an idiot.

We're one of the smallest, most junior pilot groups in the US 121 world, and we have lots of people who don't have college degrees, who started out at CC Air/Air Midwest way back when.

I'm assuming you're one of those people without a college education, since you don't seem to comprehend that attrition numbers represent a statistical sample of a pilot group.

If you filter out:

a) people with no 4-year degree from a "real" college (University of Phoenix/online diploma mills don't count)

b) people who do not want to leave

and

c) people with less than 3,000 hours total time/1,000 TPIC (which is essentially >60% of the seniority list at this moment in time)

...I am very certain our attrition-to-better-jobs numbers--on a percentage basis--are equal to or better than any US 121 regional.

Quit if you hate it here so much. Especially if you're a Captain senior to me on the EJet.

Originally Posted by Pullout

If you're looking to 'do your time and move onto a major', don't come to Mesa. The movement in that direction for our group in comparison to other regionals is pathetic. (Even our qualified Captains are being passed up for other company's less experienced FOs.)

Originally Posted by Rob12345

New to Forums, learning how this works, please don't laugh...

I believe I am going to be offered a July CRJ Class date.

Any thoughts on odds of a new CRJ FO getting DFW Based?

Originally Posted by 24/48

This is probably the most myopic post.

Most myopic? Really? Before you label it most myopic, hear me out.

1) New-hires at Mesa are moving up anywhere from 5-10 numbers per month, and averaging about 30 coming in junior to them every month. That means folks are leaving and going elsewhere, and yes I've met plenty of Mesa pilots that are now UA new-hires.

A few people are moving on. But where they are moving onto most is what is troubling. Very few, are onto the legacies. And most of those are either minority and/or women. The others are off to LCCs like Spirit, Allegiant etc. Not exactly every pilot's dream job but definitely better than Mesa. I know we have some wonder FO's on here that think they're special because they're mom's raised them to think that way, but there are hundreds of pilots with better credentials that what they assume and are still waiting for that interview call. And 5-10 must also factor in retirement, medical, FMLA etc. It's a fraction of 1% best case scenario.

2) Majors don't care about regional pedigree, heck if Mesa is that bad and we didn't want to hire their pilots, then why would their operation be good enough to safely transport our passengers, etc? Why would UA or AA being willing to put their code, and livery on those aircraft?

You assume I'm saying we aren't being hired because we are a bad pilot group. Quite the opposite. Think outside the box. Mesa is one of United's top performing and lowest cost regionals. That is the simple reason they are awarding us with all this new flying; American too. It's simple business. Now if they start taking from one of their most reliable/cheapest, then we start having results like Republic is having now. It would be like United eating it's own foot. The good foot, not the limping one. Now why would it want to cannibalize it's good foot?

If anything, the one regional I hear about the most for having a bad reputation in the UA new-hire ranks is Skywest. However, a few bad apples doesn't stop us from hiring from Skywest.

Of course they're not going to stop hiring from SkyWest. Are those few bad apples bad for United business/finance or are they a pain in the ass for United pilots? VP's care about one of those factors, not so much the other.

Originally Posted by Rob12345

Anyone been to Mesa training recently?

What do you wish you had know or studied before you showed up?

What do you know now about Mesa you did not know or expect before you start working for them?

Any other info/thoughts you would give to a new guy to help them out?

I get it its a Regional Job and I get it that the pay is horrible for the first few years, I'm a fortunate enough to be in a position where I can face the tough economic times coming. I would just like to make my time there as productive and smooth as possible.

Originally Posted by flapshalfspeed

If you're unavailable a third time, you're probably going to have a carpet dance, in which your chief pilot is probably going to want a really good explanation of what the problem with your commute is, and how you plan on fixing it.

They're reasonable guys--if you have legitimate reasons for missing a commute they aren't going to burn you for it. But if you're exceeding the limits of the policy constantly b/c you're cutting it close and/or not paying attention to the weather/loads/etc., they're going to be like "hey, friend-o, what's the deal here?"

Originally Posted by ScottyDo

Swung thru the PHX crew room today. That place was like a retirement home.