Originally Posted by spuzzyair

They're just trolling... Mesa is not in the financial position to purchase any frames of their own, and I doubt United is dumb enough (although that is debatable some days) to put their eggs into one basket and purchase 30 more to hand over. They will be better off spreading the frames around.

Originally Posted by prior121

Mesa is a private company. It is no longer public therefore no one really knows what Mesa's financial situation is or how much cash we have on hand.

Originally Posted by CyFo145

It's unbelievable how stubbornly fickle and foolish we have become. Have we already forgotten the Mesa m.o.? This is the 4 cycle of this barnacle of a airline. They grow fast, can't manage growth, collapse on its face, file for bk, furlough, and raise money to do it again. Wash, Lather, rinse, repeat. They got booted from every contract before. everything they are doing now is set up for the same. How the heck are they gonna staff the growth with their meager pay? look at Great Lakes, rah, and express jet, which except for G.L. still have higher pay than Mesa currently. Which goes to show sjs sadly enough, still is pervasive at exploiting pilots. This is just the beginning, and no new contract J.O. will offer will beat others to attract more pilots in which most have aspirations to go to a major who will scoop up regional guys in droves as they already are. Why you went from one meager regional to another meager one in a time majors are beginning to hire is beyond me. I went from a meager regional did my time and I'm now at a major. I told myself as my former regional wasn't getting better anytime soon, that best I keep building my time here, and wait for the first wave, no way in hell I even for a sec made a lateral move to another regional. Regionals will eventually wither down to a nub from attrition as it should, cause they were the spearheads of bringing this profession down the tubes which was also spearheaded by Mesa.
A lil Mesa history, they got booted from united in the late 90's then in mid 2009. Booted from the pre AMW merger us airways. Booted from delta. All this while filing ch 11 a couple times. How you think they will be impervious to the current shortage. J.O. Will never give into leading contract, never has, never will. He will continue to make millions and bail when he wants if need be.

Originally Posted by prior121

Yeah, so, I know a very small amount on the total Mesa history, but for one "booted from united in 2009" is just plain wrong.

Originally Posted by paxhauler85

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Originally Posted by prior121


Yeah, so, I know a very small amount on the total Mesa history, but for one "booted from united in 2009" is just plain wrong.




He's right. I was there in 2009. We parked approximately 30-40 -200s and 10 dash-8s, all for United. Lots of people lost their jobs when that happened.

Originally Posted by RB211

There is a reason why I never come to airline forums. I had an opportunity back in 2007 to go to the regionals and decided to flight instruct some more because I listened to the negative people on this forum under a different username.
Now with actual first hand experience at Mesa no less, I can safely say that I wish I had done this sooner and that it has been the best aviation job I have had yet.
I am not trying to force feed anyone the kool aid, but for those of you out there who are thinking about going to a regional, don't listen to the negative people, and don't fall for the overly positive people either. You need to experience it for yourself and make your own mind up based on your own experience.
You know why I went to Mesa? They were the first ones that said yes. I can say that I am very glad I did.
I don't discredit anyone else's opinion on the matter, their opinions are shaped by their own personal experiences and are perfectly valid FOR THEM.
I can tell you this, the second Mesa has trouble filling classes, we will have a new contract at our doorstep to sign. There is no way J.O. is going to let slip away the United E175 contract due to a pilot shortage.
And I am not going to defend the regional industry, or bash it. We do contract flying, we are forced to be competitive against each other, by the very laws of nature, this is what happens. Get out of the regionals as quickly as you can. You are a foolish to think otherwise.

Originally Posted by atpcliff

RAH MEC just approved a TA with improved pay and working conditions.