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Old 05-31-2014 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by FaceBiter
And the reason they cant add new flying is........?
Do not do what?
What is a joke? I want to see examples, details...
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Old 05-31-2014 | 10:33 AM
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I have a CRJ class date offered for November, I like the idea of getting to move back to IAD. You guys think the upgrade time is really gonna slow down? I really don't want to live in DC for years on Mesa's FO pay.
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Old 05-31-2014 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by kb8018
I have a CRJ class date offered for November, I like the idea of getting to move back to IAD. You guys think the upgrade time is really gonna slow down? I really don't want to live in DC for years on Mesa's FO pay.
Simple, then don't go to Mesa.
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Old 05-31-2014 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by BaronRouge380
Do not do what?
What is a joke? I want to see examples, details...
Do some research. Don't just take the easy job because the recruiters are blowing up your phone with class dates.
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Old 05-31-2014 | 10:44 AM
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I think the reason there is some hesitancy on saying new hires may not get the quick upgrade is because there are theoretically enough FO's on property to fill all the CA seats on the planned aircraft deliveries. For anyone new to get a CA seat, there would have to be additional growth beyond the current known deliveries or attrition from the CA side. My understanding is that CA attrition is still pretty low right now. Most of the movement is taking place because of new airplanes.
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Old 05-31-2014 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by FaceBiter
Do some research. Don't just take the easy job because the recruiters are blowing up your phone with class dates.
Hey bro, never said I made up my mind on Mesa or any other regional. And no Mesa did not call me and gave me a job. I did interview (including Mesa, at a job fair).
As for doing my research, I am doing so and my posts are part of it, bro!
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Old 05-31-2014 | 10:54 AM
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Good job broseph, gold star.
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Old 05-31-2014 | 11:30 AM
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Theoretically 40 (30 EJETS 10 900s) airplanes at 6 CAs per plane 5.5 per plane, .5 for attrition is 240 upgrades.

Let's say 40 have already been awarded upgrade. 30 for E175 10 for new CRJ900s

That leaves 200 more captains needed. Hypothetically all those FOs are already on property.

I've been pretty conservative with my numbers thus far and I've been off.

I never expected the most junior CA in June of 2014 to be 552. My calculations said 500-515 at best. I also never expected a fall 2013 hire to be able to hold PHX yet. I figured it would have been this winter before we saw that kind of movement.

Either way, if you are hired this summer or fall, I'm afraid the upgrade opportunity isn't as guaranteed as it is to those of us hired last year. #600-750 on seniority list.

Now if we get more airplanes than this 40, which JO keeps hinting to, that all would change. There's still 60 AAG E175s to be awarded.

It's rolling dice folks.
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Old 05-31-2014 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by prior121
Theoretically 40 (30 EJETS 10 900s) airplanes at 6 CAs per plane 5.5 per plane, .5 for attrition is 240 upgrades.

Let's say 40 have already been awarded upgrade. 30 for E175 10 for new CRJ900s

That leaves 200 more captains needed. Hypothetically all those FOs are already on property.

I've been pretty conservative with my numbers thus far and I've been off.

I never expected the most junior CA in June of 2014 to be 552. My calculations said 500-515 at best. I also never expected a fall 2013 hire to be able to hold PHX yet. I figured it would have been this winter before we saw that kind of movement.

Either way, if you are hired this summer or fall, I'm afraid the upgrade opportunity isn't as guaranteed as it is to those of us hired last year. #600-750 on seniority list.

Now if we get more airplanes than this 40, which JO keeps hinting to, that all would change. There's still 60 AAG E175s to be awarded.

It's rolling dice folks.

Everything is rolling the dice, everywhere.
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Old 05-31-2014 | 11:46 AM
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I'm rolling the dice at Mesa. June hires should be in the 800 range, so may be missed the quick upgrade but hopefully we can still get in and get lines or out of IAD relatively quick.
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