MESA LAX Flying?/NEW Base
06-29-2014 | 08:12 PM
#31
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Management told you, huh?
There's more to an employer decision than equipment. Domicile, upgrade time, prior relationships, a myriad of factors go into picking an airline to work for. Aside from avoiding turboprops, equipment is at the bottom of that list. And since you bring up pay, have you considered pilots at these "bottom feeders" might make more money considering their Captain pay by the third year? I really didn't want to get embroiled in these petty airline battles my first day posting here, but since people insist on it...
There's more to an employer decision than equipment. Domicile, upgrade time, prior relationships, a myriad of factors go into picking an airline to work for. Aside from avoiding turboprops, equipment is at the bottom of that list. And since you bring up pay, have you considered pilots at these "bottom feeders" might make more money considering their Captain pay by the third year? I really didn't want to get embroiled in these petty airline battles my first day posting here, but since people insist on it...
Avoiding turboprops. Lol. Sounds like you'll fit right in at Mesa.
06-29-2014 | 08:22 PM
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This horse has been beat'n so bad it's dog food.
06-29-2014 | 08:30 PM
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What happens when the music stops on the quick upgrade? What are you left with? This is managements dream to bait and switch on ignorant pilots on the promise of a quick upgrade!
06-29-2014 | 10:23 PM
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What about CPZ?
Nice shiny airplanes, get some of that valuable "engine under wing" time, and they seem to be the new "OMGZ QUICK UPGRADZ!!!!11!" airline of choice. When the music stops, and that 'quick upgrade' vanishes at least you'll be at an airline that treats you like a human and will avoid the 'Mesa Stain' on the 'ol resume.
Nice shiny airplanes, get some of that valuable "engine under wing" time, and they seem to be the new "OMGZ QUICK UPGRADZ!!!!11!" airline of choice. When the music stops, and that 'quick upgrade' vanishes at least you'll be at an airline that treats you like a human and will avoid the 'Mesa Stain' on the 'ol resume.
06-29-2014 | 11:02 PM
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A friend recommended taking a look at Compass. They were my second choice. But I don't like how they make you figure out your own housing during training in MSP. Also, my goal is to be based in Phoenix, the closest Compass has to that is LA. But they're a respectable regional.
06-29-2014 | 11:37 PM
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@ deltajuliet welcome to the 121 world. There are gonna be a lot of negative people trying to bring you down and say things to make you
Miserable.
The best thing is to just keep your head high and take it with a grain of salt. All regional pilots shouldn't be bagging on each other on how each other like we are not worthy aviators. In the end of the day we are all pilots and we all fly people from point a to point b safely and efficiently. If they say that you work for a crappy company just remember that before we were born mainline carriers created the whole regional airline systems to find a cheaper source of flying from mainline. It's not our fault that this system was created 20+ years ago and this is the one of the only options we have to get to a major.
Just remember that we all have the goal of getting in and out of a regional ASAP. Majors really don't care who you fly for they just want to see
What credentials you have to offer.
As for coming to Mesa welcome. We may not be the best paid or have the best contract but hopefully our
MEC's get working on it to improve it. As just regular pilots the
Most we can do if we are not on the negotiating team is to vote No on anything that is sub par. I am sure with our current pilots the next offer that does come will be voted against just like our other fellow pilots at eagle, xjet, and republic until all the regional managers realize that no pilot group is ready to take crap anymore.
Hang in there bud. There is always light in the end of the tunnel. There will always be haters and negativity, it's just about how you deal
With it and come out stronger at the other end!
Miserable.
The best thing is to just keep your head high and take it with a grain of salt. All regional pilots shouldn't be bagging on each other on how each other like we are not worthy aviators. In the end of the day we are all pilots and we all fly people from point a to point b safely and efficiently. If they say that you work for a crappy company just remember that before we were born mainline carriers created the whole regional airline systems to find a cheaper source of flying from mainline. It's not our fault that this system was created 20+ years ago and this is the one of the only options we have to get to a major.
Just remember that we all have the goal of getting in and out of a regional ASAP. Majors really don't care who you fly for they just want to see
What credentials you have to offer.
As for coming to Mesa welcome. We may not be the best paid or have the best contract but hopefully our
MEC's get working on it to improve it. As just regular pilots the
Most we can do if we are not on the negotiating team is to vote No on anything that is sub par. I am sure with our current pilots the next offer that does come will be voted against just like our other fellow pilots at eagle, xjet, and republic until all the regional managers realize that no pilot group is ready to take crap anymore.
Hang in there bud. There is always light in the end of the tunnel. There will always be haters and negativity, it's just about how you deal
With it and come out stronger at the other end!
06-30-2014 | 03:09 AM
#40
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A friend recommended taking a look at Compass. They were my second choice. But I don't like how they make you figure out your own housing during training in MSP. Also, my goal is to be based in Phoenix, the closest Compass has to that is LA. But they're a respectable regional.
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