Originally Posted by 450knotoffice

the core issue with this thread is that it comes across as - probably unintentionally - pouring salt in the wound of a couple hundred long time lax based eagle pilots who first watched skywest come in to share what used to be an exclusive hub, and which resulted in displacements to other bases (none closer than dfw), later followed by the base shutting down completely, forcing the rest of the pilots to be displaced into permanent long commutes. At the core, most ae pilots realize that the lax base closing and reallocation of flying to skywest, and now mesa, had nothing to do with the individual pilots at those airlines. However, when someone from one of those airlines posts a thread about how happy they are to be able to fly ae flying out of lax - when there are maybe 150 pilots who used to be based there as original ae pilots, who are now forced to commute due to a base closure - it can easily come across as thoughtless and inconsiderate gloating. I think that this causes some to lash out.

Originally Posted by 450knotOffice

The core issue with this thread is that it comes across as - probably unintentionally - pouring salt in the wound of a couple hundred long time LAX based Eagle pilots who first watched Skywest come in to share what used to be an exclusive hub, and which resulted in displacements to other bases (none closer than DFW), later followed by the base shutting down completely, forcing the rest of the pilots to be displaced into permanent long commutes. At the core, most AE pilots realize that the LAX base closing and reallocation of flying to Skywest, and now Mesa, had nothing to do with the individual pilots at those airlines. However, when someone from one of those airlines posts a thread about how happy they are to be able to fly AE flying out of LAX - when there are maybe 150 pilots who used to be based there as original AE pilots, who are now forced to commute due to a base closure - it can easily come across as thoughtless and inconsiderate gloating. I think that this causes some to lash out.

Originally Posted by 450knotOffice

The core issue with this thread is that it comes across as - probably unintentionally - pouring salt in the wound of a couple hundred long time LAX based Eagle pilots who first watched Skywest come in to share what used to be an exclusive hub, and which resulted in displacements to other bases (none closer than DFW), later followed by the base shutting down completely, forcing the rest of the pilots to be displaced into permanent long commutes. At the core, most AE pilots realize that the LAX base closing and reallocation of flying to Skywest, and now Mesa, had nothing to do with the individual pilots at those airlines. However, when someone from one of those airlines posts a thread about how happy they are to be able to fly AE flying out of LAX - when there are maybe 150 pilots who used to be based there as original AE pilots, who are now forced to commute due to a base closure - it can easily come across as thoughtless and inconsiderate gloating. I think that this causes some to lash out.

Originally Posted by sulkair

Bunk!!! Bases open and close all the time - whether you like it or not -- it's the nature of the industry. And if you read the OP's post - you'll notice he's expressing a small degree of joy that Mesa guys forced to commute east can finally come back west. Lots were DISPLACED OUT OF THEIR LONG TIME BASE OF PHX. The same stuff you're crying about.

There isn't even a hint of gloating. You guys are hyper sensitive because you bought into the lie that you were special. And now that you're being treated like crap, the way your precious wholly owned ALWAYS felt about you, you're pi$$y.

Originally Posted by Navmode

In a perfect world, we would all make 200k flying a 777 with 28 days off. We as pilots have no say in what management does, and it's not our fault/problem if aa gives your flying to someone else. Do you notice that none of the mesa threads include saying anything bad about other carriers? You don't own the internet, and you're not entitled to any base/flying. Our ORD crj base is closing in two months and is being given to SKW. A lot of people aren't happy that they need to commute somewhere else, but we're not crying about it to SKW pilots on APC. The truth is we work for REGIONAL airlines, so what's the big surprise every time they try to screw us?

Originally Posted by Jvw700

What a gigantic DB you are! Keep trying to defend your ****ty regional! Question is why do you feel the need to? Everyone else knows how ****ty Mesa is and always had been!

Originally Posted by sulkair

gigantic DB? yep, that's me. LOL... You hurt your case with this stuff.

You're missing the point. ALL regionals are ****ty!

I'll tell you why I care enough to counter the nonsense you +1000000000000 to. Because I raised a family, built a life, worked hard and made many friends over a very long period of time at Mesa. It wasn't rosey, but I made it work. They are good guys there, and they have fought hard for the gains they have made. They aren't taking anything from you and you know it. Look in the mirror - you hitched your wagon to the wrong star buddy, and now you're bitter. That's understandable too.

Best of luck to you Jvw700 - like every pilot at our level - we could all use a break.

DB sulk

Originally Posted by Jvw700

Ok so I take back the DB... I don't really know you. My apologies! Whether I not I made the wrong choice is yet to be determined.... Should have more news to that end in a few weeks. As regional pilots I'm not sure we'll ever be able to truly stand together.. But you have to admit the OP comes off a little arrogant or maybe just incredibly naive/ignorant.

Originally Posted by MrMustache

You mean the company the NWA pilots themselves agreed to? It could have never happened but they voted yes to allowing them to be created. They also didn't see it as whipsaw but furlough protection , which a few guys did take up jobs when they were furloughed. The NWA MEC wanted things in house if the outsourcing was going to continue. O and most of the contract provisions were straight out of the NWA contract.