Originally Posted by tinman1

A company born to whipsaw the Northwest pilot group is hardly considered respectable in my book, but yet nobody ever seems to bring that up or the fact that they don't provide accommodations during training. Everyone must be too busy worried about bashing Mesa to notice this.

Originally Posted by pilot207

@ deltajuliet welcome to the 121 world. There are gonna be a lot of negative people trying to bring you down and say things to make you
Miserable.
The best thing is to just keep your head high and take it with a grain of salt. All regional pilots shouldn't be bagging on each other on how each other like we are not worthy aviators. In the end of the day we are all pilots and we all fly people from point a to point b safely and efficiently. If they say that you work for a crappy company just remember that before we were born mainline carriers created the whole regional airline systems to find a cheaper source of flying from mainline. It's not our fault that this system was created 20+ years ago and this is the one of the only options we have to get to a major.
Just remember that we all have the goal of getting in and out of a regional ASAP. Majors really don't care who you fly for they just want to see
What credentials you have to offer.
As for coming to Mesa welcome. We may not be the best paid or have the best contract but hopefully our
MEC's get working on it to improve it. As just regular pilots the
Most we can do if we are not on the negotiating team is to vote No on anything that is sub par. I am sure with our current pilots the next offer that does come will be voted against just like our other fellow pilots at eagle, xjet, and republic until all the regional managers realize that no pilot group is ready to take crap anymore.
Hang in there bud. There is always light in the end of the tunnel. There will always be haters and negativity, it's just about how you deal
With it and come out stronger at the other end!

Originally Posted by 450knotoffice

the core issue with this thread is that it comes across as - probably unintentionally - pouring salt in the wound of a couple hundred long time lax based eagle pilots who first watched skywest come in to share what used to be an exclusive hub, and which resulted in displacements to other bases (none closer than dfw), later followed by the base shutting down completely, forcing the rest of the pilots to be displaced into permanent long commutes. At the core, most ae pilots realize that the lax base closing and reallocation of flying to skywest, and now mesa, had nothing to do with the individual pilots at those airlines. However, when someone from one of those airlines posts a thread about how happy they are to be able to fly ae flying out of lax - when there are maybe 150 pilots who used to be based there as original ae pilots, who are now forced to commute due to a base closure - it can easily come across as thoughtless and inconsiderate gloating. I think that this causes some to lash out.

Originally Posted by 450knotOffice

The core issue with this thread is that it comes across as - probably unintentionally - pouring salt in the wound of a couple hundred long time LAX based Eagle pilots who first watched Skywest come in to share what used to be an exclusive hub, and which resulted in displacements to other bases (none closer than DFW), later followed by the base shutting down completely, forcing the rest of the pilots to be displaced into permanent long commutes. At the core, most AE pilots realize that the LAX base closing and reallocation of flying to Skywest, and now Mesa, had nothing to do with the individual pilots at those airlines. However, when someone from one of those airlines posts a thread about how happy they are to be able to fly AE flying out of LAX - when there are maybe 150 pilots who used to be based there as original AE pilots, who are now forced to commute due to a base closure - it can easily come across as thoughtless and inconsiderate gloating. I think that this causes some to lash out.

Originally Posted by 450knotOffice

The core issue with this thread is that it comes across as - probably unintentionally - pouring salt in the wound of a couple hundred long time LAX based Eagle pilots who first watched Skywest come in to share what used to be an exclusive hub, and which resulted in displacements to other bases (none closer than DFW), later followed by the base shutting down completely, forcing the rest of the pilots to be displaced into permanent long commutes. At the core, most AE pilots realize that the LAX base closing and reallocation of flying to Skywest, and now Mesa, had nothing to do with the individual pilots at those airlines. However, when someone from one of those airlines posts a thread about how happy they are to be able to fly AE flying out of LAX - when there are maybe 150 pilots who used to be based there as original AE pilots, who are now forced to commute due to a base closure - it can easily come across as thoughtless and inconsiderate gloating. I think that this causes some to lash out.

Originally Posted by sulkair

Bunk!!! Bases open and close all the time - whether you like it or not -- it's the nature of the industry. And if you read the OP's post - you'll notice he's expressing a small degree of joy that Mesa guys forced to commute east can finally come back west. Lots were DISPLACED OUT OF THEIR LONG TIME BASE OF PHX. The same stuff you're crying about.

There isn't even a hint of gloating. You guys are hyper sensitive because you bought into the lie that you were special. And now that you're being treated like crap, the way your precious wholly owned ALWAYS felt about you, you're pi$$y.

Originally Posted by Navmode

In a perfect world, we would all make 200k flying a 777 with 28 days off. We as pilots have no say in what management does, and it's not our fault/problem if aa gives your flying to someone else. Do you notice that none of the mesa threads include saying anything bad about other carriers? You don't own the internet, and you're not entitled to any base/flying. Our ORD crj base is closing in two months and is being given to SKW. A lot of people aren't happy that they need to commute somewhere else, but we're not crying about it to SKW pilots on APC. The truth is we work for REGIONAL airlines, so what's the big surprise every time they try to screw us?