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03-05-2016 | 08:50 AM

#5041

FrequentFly3r

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Originally Posted by Out Of Trim

Just got off the phone with another bud at Envoy. He said that along with the 10/hr payment for 121 or 135 and the sign on bonus, they just put a retention bonus in place too. 20K over the first 2 years. Don't be surprised if PSA and Piedmont follow suit.

The end of Mesa is coming soon.

03-05-2016 | 08:53 AM

#5042

BeatNavy

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Originally Posted by FrequentFly3r

The end of Mesa is coming soon.

Oh really? Yawn. Classes are still full.

03-05-2016 | 09:14 AM

#5043

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Originally Posted by FrequentFly3r

The end of Mesa is coming soon.

You can't possibly convince me that Envoy can operate cheaper than Mesa, and as soon as it suites mainline, you'll see them try to spin off the wholly owns, and give the flying to the cheapest bidder. It would not surprise me one day if Mesa was operating Envoy's E-jets.
Perhaps in the short term, Mesa may get pushed around, but Mesa will never die.

03-05-2016 | 09:22 AM

#5044

hc0fitted

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Originally Posted by Out Of Trim

PSA and Piedmont already turned down that useless bonus

03-05-2016 | 09:34 AM

#5045

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Oh really? Yawn. Classes are still full.

For now. As soon as 20k bonuses and $35-40/hr first year pay become status quo while Mesa continues to offer 22.18/hr and nothing else things will change.

Unless, of course, we announce more new flying.

03-05-2016 | 09:58 AM

#5046

tinman1

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Originally Posted by FrequentFly3r

For now. As soon as 20k bonuses and $35-40/hr first year pay become status quo while Mesa continues to offer 22.18/hr and nothing else things will change.

Nah man because we've got fast upgradezz! FOR EVERYONE!! Haven't you heard? Johnny O is handing them out like party favors.

Seriously, just go look at the MAG website and you'll see most recent upgrade times plastered on the front page. Talk to a recruiter and I'll guarantee you that is most likely their main selling point. Our main recruiter is a good salesman. Dude could talk a nun into doing a gangbang!

03-05-2016 | 10:53 AM

#5047

BeatNavy

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Bonuses and higher pay have been the status quo, and it hasn't deterred newhires yet. What makes you think it'll change?

03-05-2016 | 11:28 AM

#5048

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Bonuses and higher pay have been the status quo, and it hasn't deterred newhires yet. What makes you think it'll change?

Have you noticed how much the gap has grown in the last year? When I made a lateral move to Mesa my paycut was less than a dollar per hour. The difference now is almost 13 dollars per hour.

03-05-2016 | 11:35 AM

#5049

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Convince us. Jump ship.

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Have you noticed how much the gap has grown in the last year? When I made a lateral move to Mesa my paycut was less than a dollar per hour. The difference now is almost 13 dollars per hour.

03-05-2016 | 11:41 AM

#5050

Systemized

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Originally Posted by iFlyRC

If it was 2007, maybe I'd agree but it's 2016 and times have changed. Decreasing labor supply is driving regional labor costs up. It wouldn't surprise me if Mesa doesn't survive the next five years do to low margins resulting in their inability to raise wages to a competitive level. The fact that Mesa is locked into long term contracts is a huge economic disadvantage if labor costs go up with their current small margins. The Fee-For-Departure industry model is changing and the wholly-owns currently offer more value to their parent company.