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Old 08-15-2015 | 11:47 AM
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Are you suggesting we are getting some of RP's 50 175s?
Old 08-15-2015 | 11:50 AM
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So is anyone planing on voting yes? Or still legitimately undecided?
Old 08-15-2015 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by NovemberBravo
So is anyone planing on voting yes? Or still legitimately undecided?
I kept an open mind. I wanted this to be something good for the pilot group and the company. However, after reading the TA I feel it is obvious that there are too many issues that were not even addressed by our union. Insurance, reserve buffer transparency, and hotel quality just to name a few topics.

My decision is NO!!!
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Originally Posted by 121again
And if there are vacancies by all means come on over. But the ability to bump people out of awarded seats is not cool.
It wasn't cool to prevent us from going over to the aircraft in the first place. 2 yr captains have better schedules and then 14 yr cry ca's
Old 08-15-2015 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by NovemberBravo
So is anyone planing on voting yes? Or still legitimately undecided?

Isn't the alternative no change at all? If that's the case, yes is the only logical vote.


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Old 08-15-2015 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by RV5M
Isn't the alternative no change at all? If that's the case, yes is the only logical vote.



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Wow...are you Mgmt? The alternative is go back and get more, because this is not acceptable.
Old 08-15-2015 | 01:49 PM
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Yeah, but where are we going to get more from?
Old 08-15-2015 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by logic1
Wow...are you Mgmt? The alternative is go back and get more, because this is not acceptable.

As mentioned in a previous post, if they prove to have negotiated in good faith, there is no more. It's this or nothing. Maybe that's wrong, but from what I've read so far, that's how it's going to work.


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Old 08-15-2015 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Sennant
It wasn't cool to prevent us from going over to the aircraft in the first place. 2 yr captains have better schedules and then 14 yr cry ca's
Those Captains were rightfully awarded their seat under the current contract. I'm sorry you couldn't bid over but that doesn't give you a claim to someone else's seat. You should certainly be able to hold any position your seniority allows but the right way to do it is to wait for a vacancy and bid like everyone else.
Old 08-15-2015 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Xdashdriver
Yeah, but where are we going to get more from?
How about more from a new leadership team. Once this doesn't pass, and we hopefully stop filling classes for future attrition/growth, the board will finally come to their senses and get rid of the top two.

It's time to stop telling other 121 FOs to give up their current gig. The water is not nice and warm over here.

And for those FO's that still only see the chance for upgrade and are willing to vote yes...realize life will be horrible with these new reserve rules once you do upgrade. Specifically speaking the lack of buffer language and the company able to assign in any order to keep flying equal.
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