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Old 07-25-2015 | 05:06 PM
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Thanks guys.

Side note: this new thread is really pointless can we go back to the old one now?
Old 07-25-2015 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy
The email said the road shows and sales pitches will happen beginning in late August, so I would guess sometime in September. Any union guys have a more accurate answer?
Originally Posted by Sennant
Mec is not even considering it until August 12-13 at the meeting. they have to agree to pass it on first. After that then the road shows get planned. Early-mid September at the earliest.

What sennant said. There is so much more to a TA than pay rates and other big issue bullet points. People form initial impressions of things based on emotion and preliminary understanding (look at all the shenanigans and later, "interpretations" that came out from far 117). They (the Mec) is going to want to let things marinade, give people a chance to ask questions and fully understand what they're voting on before it goes to a vote... So I would assume a week or two after the last road show, whenever that will be.
Old 07-25-2015 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ScottyDo
Thanks guys.

Side note: this new thread is really pointless can we go back to the old one now?
Perhaps a new thread is fitting. After the rebranding, we did get a new company logo after all. Why not a new thread?
Old 07-25-2015 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ScottyDo
Thanks guys.

Side note: this new thread is really pointless can we go back to the old one now?
Go back to the old one and try to post something. You will see why this one was started.
Old 07-25-2015 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by BE24pilot
Go back to the old one and try to post something. You will see why this one was started.
(shakes head) I know WHY this one was started, that is not what I was getting at.
Old 07-25-2015 | 08:54 PM
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Enough of this tomfoolery...we aren't here to argue over meaningless vitriol.

I hope there is language in the new TA that concerns scheduling and reserve buffers. It seems they just arbitrarily set a number at random times. For instance this month when SAP opened it was showing the buffer for PHX FOs for 12 then it went up to 20 at some point that afternoon. Maybe I'm missing something but it would be nice if there were hard rules about this to hold scheduling accountable over.

Somebody correct me if I'm missing something here.
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Originally Posted by tinman1
Enough of this tomfoolery...we aren't here to argue over meaningless vitriol.

I hope there is language in the new TA that concerns scheduling and reserve buffers. It seems they just arbitrarily set a number at random times. For instance this month when SAP opened it was showing the buffer for PHX FOs for 12 then it went up to 20 at some point that afternoon. Maybe I'm missing something but it would be nice if there were hard rules about this to hold scheduling accountable over.

Somebody correct me if I'm missing something here.
Completion factor and D0 is much more important to them than the cost savings achieved by allowing lineholders to drop on days where reserves are historically under-utilized. It's their bread & butter, financially speaking.

They have plenty of data with which they could algorithmically set buffers on a daily basis within each month: they know what average rolling block times are going to be on a daily/weekly/monthly basis within each domicile. They know what days are going to have historically higher or lower absences.

Yet, in the overall calculus of airline operations, the cost of a controllable cancellation or delay costs them much more than the headache of algorithmically optimizing reserve buffers on a day-to-day basis (unless there is firm contract language incentivizing them to pay attention to such things, which this TA might--might--do, from what I am told).

They would certainly save themselves a lot of money on specific days & months by calculating daily reserve buffers ad-hoc. But they seem to care more about protecting the feed and the D0 numbers. This is true at most 121 regionals I am aware of.
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Your not. And it was one of the reasons negotiations took so long


Originally Posted by tinman1
Enough of this tomfoolery...we aren't here to argue over meaningless vitriol.

I hope there is language in the new TA that concerns scheduling and reserve buffers. It seems they just arbitrarily set a number at random times. For instance this month when SAP opened it was showing the buffer for PHX FOs for 12 then it went up to 20 at some point that afternoon. Maybe I'm missing something but it would be nice if there were hard rules about this to hold scheduling accountable over.

Somebody correct me if I'm missing something here.
Old 07-26-2015 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by FaceBiter
So it's kool if you bozos take swings but when I step up to the plate and knock grand slams it's a problem? Makes total sense.
Unless you have topical or professional comments to contribute to this post please leave. Your flame bait and attacks are not welcome here. We all know where we work. We all know you work at Skywest, if you feel that that airline was the right choice for you than we are happy for you. Please contribute to the Skywest thread.
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His real name is PillowBiter.
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