prior121

Most of us are RAH/Pinnacle/Eagle/XJT/Colgan/ASA/ refugees who either were tired of being at a stagnant airline, or tired of being treated like crap, came here and in comparing it to our last place, are happy.

No carpet dances for sick calls, PIC/SIC decision making, being unavalailable for JRA's etc.....

BE24pilot

I think your missing the point. I have not seen anyone say they are a firm yes vote. It won't matter if it is yes or no. If there is no additional growth, without an industry average or better contract to attract new hires people will leave in droves. Too many other regionals to pick from right now. Without FOs to staff airplanes we can not cover flying, not covering flying leads to reductions and shifting to other regionals. The company is being short sighted to the industry right now. The only reason we can sustain our hiring is the movement. They even advertise it on the website. They say something like an upgrade is better than a bonus. Without upgrade they better have the best FO rates in the industry otherwise people can go to Endeavor, Compass, insert regional for bonus and career progression to a major. There best bet would be to set up some type of preferential interview process with its Legacy partners. That could be enough of a carrot to get people to stay. Without growth Mesa quickly becomes the lowest paid regional with poor work rules, and from what the union is saying it sounds like that will be the case with or without the TA.

prydb

Does anyone know why it takes so long to get an answer about a drop? Is that not suppose to be handled by a computer. Shouldn't take that long to handle the drops by time it came in and accept anything that has above min days.

CBreezy

This hurt my brain.

deltajuliet

Yeah, that's frustratingly inconsistent. I've seen it do it instantly, other times it processes forever. I get the feeling sometimes it's manually checked first. Ideally it would be rectified in the new TA.

eaglefly

Dear Mesa management,

I would request that you read this thread BEFORE finalizing your contract offer to the pilots. Failure to do that will almost certainly mean you'll be leaving perfectly good money on the table. As you can see, it appears they are eager and ready to bend over beyond 90 degrees to take whatever is offered. They have clearly advertised that to you here. I'd go with less then average pay rates, no increase in 401(k) contributions and don't forget to get most of your value from very flexible work rules for yourselves, especially reserve. Also critical is new ambiguous language that seems to promise something, but invariably has an escape exit out a side door. Since you cannot predict the future for your carriers relationship with its mainline partners, you need to be able to cut, gut and slash at will should unforseen circumstances upset one or more of them. That of course means scope and ensuring no transfer rights with aircraft shuffled elsewhere. All you need are promises and you're good to go. Remember, those are virtually free.

Signed,

An interested observer.

P.S. If the pilots described here ARE you, then disregard the above communique as clearly you're indeed seeking to manage the expectations of clueless kids, many of whom haven't been around the block in the union-busting business.

BE24pilot

Spelling and grammatical errors aside, that is my point. The only reason we are attracting new hires has been the growth. We will have to do industry average or better to keep attracting people, or continue to gain airplanes.

in regards to spelling and grammercy please take that immaturity to the closed Mesa forum. This one is for serious topical discussion only.

milehighskyline

I am voting no to this contract. I will not be responsible for a subpar contract. All this union does on the email updates is make excuses for the airlines ability to pay average rates. I love this airline but not the pay check. why vote something in if its marginally better.

milehighskyline

And as far as canceling the last thred. Really? I feel like I am on a grade school play ground. Grow up.

BeatNavy

I just want to know how her chicken turned out. Figured we would get a report back from someone who took her up on her offer. Unfortunately I wasn't in SEA last night.