without a contract this could happen.
Republic Falls Most Since 2008 as More Airline Disruptions Seen - Bloomberg Business
I understand Mesa isn't public currently.

 

And....
Republic Airways Holdings Inc. Reports Preliminary Second Quarter 2015 Financial Results - Yahoo Finance

 

Yea exactly. Let these places die if they can't pay pilots a respectable wage.

 

And then what? Less companies bidding on mainline flying? If RJET dies where do their pilots go? Another Regional that pays crap for wages and starting at the bottom? How will this solve anything?

 

If Republic dies, the flying cannot be replaced at another regional. All of the Republic pilots would not go over there and if some did, it would take months, if not close to a year to get them through the training. The doesn't really solve the issue of how to keep the planes flying.

The majors will either absorb the lost lift, or it will go back to Envoy where it was to begin with and where there are pilots currently. Or mainline will pay Republic more money to compensate their pilots a wage that allows them to staff their airline.

If Mesa says no, who do you think will replace them? Republic pilots? Republic management just stated there are no pilots to find. In reality, that statement is correct because they pay pilots very little.

 

Thank you for admitting that. At least you could do that much.
I have been here longer then 10 years actually. I have tried to improve the industry after finding out what it was about. I don't like seeing FO's getting paid low wages. Yet I keep getting badgered for trying to raise the bar, raise pay. I just don't understand it. At least you admit you were being selfish and sold out. My point to you and the rest is if we all unionized for real and do what we need to do by voting no, together, we might actually change things. Look at Republic today. If they go under, some will retire, making it worse, some will go to other regionals that take over some of the feed, and some will go back to the majors, giving us much better paying jobs like it should be. It would also send a message to every other regional airline that they screwed up for negotiating 1.5 percent margins. The majors will also realize this and might give a little more money back to some regionals to increase pay, just to keep it going a little while longer. I just wanted you guys to realize I am looking out for you guys, it just doesn't look like it. It looks like to you, I have nothing to lose and am selling out your jobs by voting no. Not saying I will until I see the contract, but flaps, at least you admit you sold out. You actually gained some respect from me. I just wish you were helping my cause of raising the bar and not helping lower it by selling out. Either way. Peace buddy.

 

Everyone that goes anywhere does it for selfish reasons whether it's the first (or only) carrier to call you, a quick upgrade, good pay rates, benefits, domiciles, you name it. No one takes a job solely for the purpose of bettering the industry. If a ta comes up that you don't think gives you what you're worth considering the circumstances, then you vote no. It's not a white knight crusade. Nothing personal, but I think the whole "I try to improve the industry" line is tired. If you're not lobbying, or occupying a union position, then you're just voting yes/no based on whether or not you think a TA is good enough for your own interests. Obviously everyone wants to see the bar raised, but don't pretend you're doing it for anyone else.

 

Hey guys can you confirm where are the different part of the Ejets training being held? Systems? Sim?

I've heard Indoc and System are in PHX and Sim is in DFW or STL.

 

You don't know me. Some is for me. Some I try to give back to improve it for others. I grew up taking care of things I have. Sounds like you didn't. Probably given everything in life. You can turn down carrier's who call you if you find out they don't offer you what you want or are worth or if the fit is not right. I have done that. You don't have to take the first one that comes up. You are entitled to your opinion but don't tell me what I pretend to do or not. You don't have to be in a union position or lobbying to change things. Stop with the excuses.

 

Indoc and systems (about 3 weeks combined) in PHX followed by sims in STL or DFW, usually. They'll put you wherever they can get sim time.