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08-26-2015 | 10:00 PM
#871
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Don't get bullied by !!!! Hold them accountable !!
08-26-2015 | 10:23 PM
#872
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From: CRJ FO
Wowwwwwww...AH needs to be bent over hat-in-hand if he thinks we're going to vote in this turd to help him get a management pilot's job down the road.
Lol sounds like he doesn't know how to play this game. Go watch an episode of House of Cards, AW!!! At least pretend to be conciliatory when asking people to vote for something that is going to screw everyone else and benefit yourself bro!!!
Lol sounds like he doesn't know how to play this game. Go watch an episode of House of Cards, AW!!! At least pretend to be conciliatory when asking people to vote for something that is going to screw everyone else and benefit yourself bro!!!
08-26-2015 | 10:26 PM
#873
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From: CRJ 900
Sorry to say, but why should anyone at Mesa give a crap about the new guys pay? Every single new hire is getting paid what they are worth, set fourth by their decision to come here and knowingly work for that pay. Our new hire classes are always full, the quick upgrade is dead, and our benefits are horrible.
Why should the pilot group, with any amount of seniority care? Let the market dictate what a new hire is worth, let supply and demand dictate to J.O. what a new hire is worth. Any of us with any seniority shouldn't care.
Why should the pilot group, with any amount of seniority care? Let the market dictate what a new hire is worth, let supply and demand dictate to J.O. what a new hire is worth. Any of us with any seniority shouldn't care.
08-26-2015 | 10:34 PM
#874
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From: CRJ 900
Shouldn't the company be held accountable to bid contracts that can support at least an industry average contract. If we can not secure business at prices that make conducive an average compensation and QOL, then maybe we should not be in the airline business. I will gladly put it all on the line knowing the potential that I may have to step aside and move on to another carrier.
08-27-2015 | 02:46 AM
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Shouldn't the company be held accountable to bid contracts that can support at least an industry average contract. If we can not secure business at prices that make conducive an average compensation and QOL, then maybe we should not be in the airline business. I will gladly put it all on the line knowing the potential that I may have to step aside and move on to another carrier.
08-27-2015 | 03:56 AM
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only 1 of the 4 officers lives in phx. And I know for a fact our men chair has no desire to be a lifer here
Well, the last two MEC chairs are now in management positions, so I think you might have a point here.
Can't blame them--if I lived in Phoenix I'd def be gunning to be on the MEC and/or signing off on TAs like this and buddying up with management myself.
There's a very long history of MEC chiefs securing management positions after winning concessionary contracts for the company. Go talk to a FedEx pilot about Frank Fato and the parking lot deal if you want an epic example from history.
Can't blame them--if I lived in Phoenix I'd def be gunning to be on the MEC and/or signing off on TAs like this and buddying up with management myself.
There's a very long history of MEC chiefs securing management positions after winning concessionary contracts for the company. Go talk to a FedEx pilot about Frank Fato and the parking lot deal if you want an epic example from history.
08-27-2015 | 04:19 AM
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I'll never forget his response: Oh, well, you've been here how long?.....Oh. 4 years, huh? Well, your JUNIORITY (lol) doesn't allow you to ask such a question
JUNORITY. love it. I actually did Laugh Out Loud. What a tool.
such a great line, though.
Ahhh the man who brought Mesa Jets4Jobs....
08-27-2015 | 06:38 AM
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OMG. i just watched the FB video overvieiw of the the new TA. I dont follow MAG news but already knew mesa sucked but this is crazy. What the heck has been going on over there. The new TA is worst than the xjt contract of 2004. If your >5 years there just leave asap. You guys having been flying under a stone age contract. Just get the old L-xjt contrat and your lives will improve tremendiosly. Im not saying this to insult anyone but my jaw just droped when i listened to the "new improvements" that the TA is offering. I honestly feel bad for you guys even thou you did it to yourself but this crap needs to stop.
08-27-2015 | 06:45 AM
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Does the new TA have leg-by-leg cancellation pay or do you keep the current line guarantee?
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