Suggestions Mesa/TSA/Envoy/GoJet
04-09-2016, 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by AnakinSkywalker
Hello people,
I'm new in the forum. I'm still kinda looking for information about the Regional airlines, I'm planning to interview soon with one of them. Currently the ones that got my attention are Mesa Airlines, Trans State Airlines, Envoy and GoJet Airlines.
Any thoughts on which one is the best decision to go with? Any information about them? If they're growing or not, etc.
I know there should be a lot of opinions, like Mesa, most of the people say to run away from them, but I don't know if is true. I want to read your suggestions.
Thanks for the help!!!
I'm new in the forum. I'm still kinda looking for information about the Regional airlines, I'm planning to interview soon with one of them. Currently the ones that got my attention are Mesa Airlines, Trans State Airlines, Envoy and GoJet Airlines.
Any thoughts on which one is the best decision to go with? Any information about them? If they're growing or not, etc.
I know there should be a lot of opinions, like Mesa, most of the people say to run away from them, but I don't know if is true. I want to read your suggestions.
Thanks for the help!!!
04-09-2016, 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Avroman
E, none of the above. You've picked 3 of the worst and the 4th (Envoy) is a shell of what it used to be as American Eagle. Why not throw in Great Lakes too? (extreme sarcasm)
04-09-2016, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by adspilot
LOL. Of all the regionals you are looking at the three of the worst regionals out there. I never thought Envoy would be listed among the bottom but we have definitely been left behind with the pay scale QOL and stagnation. So for now I guess we are one of the bottoms. Any ways, to answer you question of those four Envoy is the no brainier.
However, why not Endeavor, Skywest, or even air Wisconsin?
Where do you live? Are you planning on moving?
However, why not Endeavor, Skywest, or even air Wisconsin?
Where do you live? Are you planning on moving?
I don't see much of a connection between these choices except there is SOME domicile overlap. I hope this pilot has accessed each carriers websites, all of which have good info about pay, domiciles, incentives and other facts. Mesa, GoJet and Trans States have quick upgrades with their most junior captains hired anywhere from February to October 2015 according to their website info, so advancement potential is strong there as is the additional $ earned due to quicker upgrade projection vs. bonuses, etc. Envoy has a flow-thru to AA though, but a slow crawl to upgrade.
The other carriers are strong choices, but there must be some reason he/she is not targeting them.
04-09-2016, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Crawl
Out of those, Envoy hands down, especially if you want to live and be based in DFW. QOL will be good not commuting.
04-09-2016, 06:47 AM
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I'm an ATP CFI, those that I mention have the tuition reimbursement program.
I forgot to mention that. That's why Skywest is not in my options, theyre not part of the program, if not... Skywest without thinking it twice.
Thanks for the comments, I still looking some more!
I forgot to mention that. That's why Skywest is not in my options, theyre not part of the program, if not... Skywest without thinking it twice.
Thanks for the comments, I still looking some more!
04-09-2016, 06:50 AM
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I believe that some regionals are so bad they should not be considered by any pilot who has choices.
I think there is consensus as to the worst place to go, by far. The way they have treated employees for many years had been terrible. FAA actions against their pilots is at a rate of something like 10 times the average. Anyone care to say who it is?
I think there is consensus as to the worst place to go, by far. The way they have treated employees for many years had been terrible. FAA actions against their pilots is at a rate of something like 10 times the average. Anyone care to say who it is?
04-09-2016, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by MrStl
I believe that some regionals are so bad they should not be considered by any pilot who has choices.
I think there is consensus as to the worst place to go, by far. The way they have treated employees for many years had been terrible. FAA actions against their pilots is at a rate of something like 10 times the average. Anyone care to say who it is?
I think there is consensus as to the worst place to go, by far. The way they have treated employees for many years had been terrible. FAA actions against their pilots is at a rate of something like 10 times the average. Anyone care to say who it is?
04-09-2016, 07:07 AM
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When I was at Gojet the FAA was all over them. There were about 200 captains and I believe that 47 had FAA enforcement actions filed against them. I don't think it is a pleasant experience leaving there and trying to explain to the major that you were merely following the company procedures when you were issued the violation.
I would place Gojet at the very bottom and I don't think anyone will argue against that. I would put Mesa as second from the bottom and then TSA. I guess Great Lakes might go between Mesa and TSA but they are a different animal.
I would place Gojet at the very bottom and I don't think anyone will argue against that. I would put Mesa as second from the bottom and then TSA. I guess Great Lakes might go between Mesa and TSA but they are a different animal.
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