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This you guys need to stop thinking the old way of get your 1000 and you're out. Please please understand there are thousands of us who spent years at a regional most of us are well past 1000 pic turbine and cannot get an interview. You guys who have a newly minted CFII need to understand this. Go to the place that shows the most STABILITY!! Times are getting harder and soon it's going to break a few regionals. You go to them in hopes of that left seat you are going to regret it.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Any thoughts about what? You're chasing pic time, then go for it.

 

Well, everyone bashing Mesa on here do not work for Mesa, and are repeating the same old lies.
Mesa has the lowest pay, and worst benefits. These two items are huge issues and are the biggest negatives. Do not listen to an Envoy person about Mesa, they are filled with too much hatred to ever be objective on this subject.
There are positives about Mesa, we have one of the best pilot groups in the business, where everyone is very nice and not out to back stab each other. Our chief pilot in DFW is one of the best you'll ever have in your career, management leaves you alone, and the company is excellent about not pushing you to do something questionable. I am a captain, and every FO I have flown with has had previous turbine experience with exception of a few CFI's. Our phone interview is not the interview, ground school, sim, and IOE is the interview. Mesa will give you the opportunity when others will not. I haven't had any horror stories, just people who are thankful for the opportunity. I am getting sick and tired of the lies on here about Mesa.

 

I can't agree more, I have on average, pretty dang good coworkers. I've enjoyed it here, got some great friends and really have only had one or two issues..

My only regret is the pay and benifits...period..

That's what's motivated me to look elsewhere, bottom line, how does pay and benifits affect your QOL...?

 

I think people tend to compare pay and benefits because it directly effects QOL and it's the only thing that someone looking outside in can objectively compare. Every pilot that ever flew at an airline says their pilot group is great. I've never once heard "don't fly for us because our pilot group is a bunch of D bags." Have you?

 

Yes, yes I have heard that about one group.... by several people working at that company (granted, it was post merger of two very different cultures)

 

Envoy, it's a no-brainer. DFW isn't going anywhere, whereas there is already talk of Mesa getting the boot from DFW. Rumors only, but I see it happening in the near future.

While the upgrade is at 8 years now, don't plan on it staying that way. Our upgrade is projected to drop to 2.5 years, and while it's certainly not a guarantee, the numbers point to it likely being the case. There's always the flow to AA as well.

Do your research, but being from Texas, I don't see any reason not to choose envoy if you get the offer. Good luck.

 

There is just as good of a chance of Mesa getting some of your e-jets to fly as there is of us leaving DFW. Don't get me wrong, I'd love nothing more than to go back to CLT.

 

Ummm, what?