minimwage4

But they're parked because we can't staff them and we can't support them too.

BealBadDeal

Hard to believe that I am coming in third with the obvious answer. Gojet has been at the bottom since day one. I wish I had just stayed on unemployment. No jet is better than gojet. I like that, my new mantra.

Now you will see the management pilots come on here and tell you all how it is really not like it used to be, that things are better. But it is still bad. The owner is not going to change. Gojet at the bottom followed by Great Lakes.

AnakinSkywalker

Im from Texas, and honestly if I have to move, I'll do it.

AnakinSkywalker

I'm just looking what people think about them, thats all...

AnakinSkywalker

Im planning to get the Tuition Reimbursement, I'm an ATP CFI.

AnakinSkywalker

Im planning on the Tuition Reimbursement, I work with ATP as a CFI. I like SkyWest but they are not part of the program... Sadly.

PilotJ3

Is the tuition like 10k + 5k sign in bonus? Just wondering...

I know they provide flying benefits and health insurance.

RyanP

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AnakinSkywalker

Tuition can be up to $11,000. That goes to my loan. So basically the airline will pay part of my loan which is good. And if I got some sign bonus will be better!

RyanP

Of those 4? Envoy DFW. Use to be one of the top regionals to work for. Things went downhill fast after bankruptcy and the Usair merger. We had a rough time and there was a lot of negativity here, but things are finally turning around again. We have been on a positive upswing for the past 6 months or so and things have been getting better. Shrinkage has stopped. FO's got a 20K bonus. New hire bonus increased. AA profit sharing plan implemented. Getting more of our old airplanes and routes back from Expressjet and Republic. Getting lots of republic flying back on our schedules lately actually. PSA transfers of our CRJ 700's halted since they can't staff them. We are Bringing back planes out of storage. Taking deliveries of 175's every month, ahead of schedule. Over 100 new Captain positions awarded this year so far. Huge Flow attrition of Captains off the top providing upward movement for FO's, has been at 30/month. It will slow for summer AA recalls (their last chance to come back to AA) but then the flow will go back to 30/mo for a while. I don't think any other regional can claim as many Captains leaving monthly for upwards career progression as we have. Not only via flow but to other Majors as well. If any other regional is losing 35+ Captains to Majors every month I would like to see it?

GoJet has a terrible history from inception and bad reputation. You will have a hard time finding anything positive about them.

Trans States operates ONLY 145's and those are a dying fleet. As AA gets more larger RJ deliveries, 145's will have to be parked due to contractual scope limitations. Envoy is in the process of replacing them with 175's. So they are better insulated from that. Trans States and Air Wisconsin are at a HUGE risk for pain and shrinkage in the future years since all their eggs are in the small RJ basket. You can find more information about the AA scope limitations in some of the other recent envoy threads.

Mesa is terrible. One of the worst reputations in the industry for a long time. They are up down, all over the place with shrinkage, growth, downgrades, furloughs, quick upgrades again. Unpredictable. They hire multiple failure rejects OVER THE PHONE, and it shows. Some of the people there are probably fine, but many of them aren't due to them having zero hiring standards. I have seen personally guys that bust type rides and fail orals at Envoy then go straight to Mesa, to any normal airline that would be a huge red flag, but they don't care. Every day in DFW it is an embarrasment watching Mesa screw up everything. They can't even handle basic radio communications on the ramp. We were just joking about this before we departed DFW and of course the Mesa guy in front of us on the ramp did it again. Some guy with a horrible accent, bumbling up the radio, doesn't know how to reply to ground where he is. Transponder not on, taxi route read back completely wrong 3 times, then they turned on the wrong bridge for opposite direction traffic (luckily nobody was coming over the bridge the other direction) and they got a phone number to call tower, probably both got a violation because DFW ground was clearly frustrated and ****ed off. We see this type of crap happening over there so often it has become the daily running joke when we push back next to a Mesa flight to see what they are going to screw up next, and it pretty much never fails they do "something" stupid. It's ridiculous. Now way I would put my certificate on the line flying for that place with people that don't know what the hell is going on.