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10-18-2016 | 10:46 AM
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Sorry not everything goes on your schedule or timeline. Do you volunteer? Show up at LEC or MEC meetings? Vote in council elections? Or just say things here you really don't understand?
Peace out.
10-18-2016 | 11:47 AM
#1312
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10-18-2016 | 11:50 AM
#1313
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First, it's not arbitration it's mediation. Second AH and the MEC just got an ALPA Major Contingency Fund grant for info picketing, family awareness and STRIKE prep. MCF funds are grants and not loans; the MEC doesn't have to ever pay it back (what's used). It's a powerful tool.
Sorry not everything goes on your schedule or timeline. Do you volunteer? Show up at LEC or MEC meetings? Vote in council elections? Or just say things here you really don't understand?
Peace out.
Sorry not everything goes on your schedule or timeline. Do you volunteer? Show up at LEC or MEC meetings? Vote in council elections? Or just say things here you really don't understand?
Peace out.
And if there's something I don't understand, chances are that most of the pilot group doesn't understand it and that's the unions fault for not educating the pilot group. Guess it's easier to make snide remarks
10-18-2016 | 01:27 PM
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Arbitration
noun
1.
the hearing and determining of a dispute or the settling of differences between parties by a person or persons chosen or agreed to by them:
Rather than risk a long strike, the union and management agreed to arbitration.
Mediation
noun
1.
action in mediating between parties, as to effect an agreement or reconciliation.
Not significantly different semantically but in our business it's different. It's not called the National Arbitration Board.
There you go. We arbitrate grievances and mediate contracts. Clear as mud?
noun
1.
the hearing and determining of a dispute or the settling of differences between parties by a person or persons chosen or agreed to by them:
Rather than risk a long strike, the union and management agreed to arbitration.
Mediation
noun
1.
action in mediating between parties, as to effect an agreement or reconciliation.
Not significantly different semantically but in our business it's different. It's not called the National Arbitration Board.
There you go. We arbitrate grievances and mediate contracts. Clear as mud?
10-18-2016 | 01:50 PM
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Arbitration
noun
1.
the hearing and determining of a dispute or the settling of differences between parties by a person or persons chosen or agreed to by them:
Rather than risk a long strike, the union and management agreed to arbitration.
Mediation
noun
1.
action in mediating between parties, as to effect an agreement or reconciliation.
Not significantly different semantically but in our business it's different. It's not called the National Arbitration Board.
There you go. We arbitrate grievances and mediate contracts. Clear as mud?
noun
1.
the hearing and determining of a dispute or the settling of differences between parties by a person or persons chosen or agreed to by them:
Rather than risk a long strike, the union and management agreed to arbitration.
Mediation
noun
1.
action in mediating between parties, as to effect an agreement or reconciliation.
Not significantly different semantically but in our business it's different. It's not called the National Arbitration Board.
There you go. We arbitrate grievances and mediate contracts. Clear as mud?
And I need to self educate on this union thing.
10-18-2016 | 02:08 PM
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First, it's not arbitration it's mediation. Second AH and the MEC just got an ALPA Major Contingency Fund grant for info picketing, family awareness and STRIKE prep. MCF funds are grants and not loans; the MEC doesn't have to ever pay it back (what's used). It's a powerful tool.
Sorry not everything goes on your schedule or timeline. Do you volunteer? Show up at LEC or MEC meetings? Vote in council elections? Or just say things here you really don't understand?
Peace out.
Sorry not everything goes on your schedule or timeline. Do you volunteer? Show up at LEC or MEC meetings? Vote in council elections? Or just say things here you really don't understand?
Peace out.
10-18-2016 | 02:12 PM
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Halfway would be awesome but virtually all this stuff has been in Hotlines and MEC emails. It's discussed in forums here on APC, so I guess without spoon-feeding it's always going to be a mystery.
Last edited by nordo; 10-18-2016 at 02:29 PM.
10-18-2016 | 02:24 PM
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10-18-2016 | 02:31 PM
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When the union meets with the NMB, it's Mediation. When the union meets for grievance resolution it's with an Arbitrator. I guess it's a distinction but with a subtle difference.
10-18-2016 | 02:42 PM
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Right. But both are avenues to conflict resolution/contractual agreements and used for labor disputes. Like the 50 seater base pay arbitration we lost. It just sounded like you were saying arbitration isn't applicable to the pilot group.
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