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Old 10-18-2016, 01:27 PM
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Arbitration

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the hearing and determining of a dispute or the settling of differences between parties by a person or persons chosen or agreed to by them:
Rather than risk a long strike, the union and management agreed to arbitration.

Mediation
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action in mediating between parties, as to effect an agreement or reconciliation.

Not significantly different semantically but in our business it's different. It's not called the National Arbitration Board.

There you go. We arbitrate grievances and mediate contracts. Clear as mud?
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Old 10-18-2016, 01:50 PM
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Arbitration

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the hearing and determining of a dispute or the settling of differences between parties by a person or persons chosen or agreed to by them:
Rather than risk a long strike, the union and management agreed to arbitration.

Mediation
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action in mediating between parties, as to effect an agreement or reconciliation.

Not significantly different semantically but in our business it's different. It's not called the National Arbitration Board.

There you go. We arbitrate grievances and mediate contracts. Clear as mud?
You need to educate the pilot group on how everything works from getting elected, who votes for the MEC to what powers the union has at its disposal. You need to have this information available, concise, written in english, etc. Obviously the pilot group needs to meet you halfway. Until then, you are all self serving politicians in the eyes of the vast majority. Telling us to read the railroad labor act, to volunteer, etc doesn't cut it. The union needs to get coaching from a PR firm, and all of you should read a book called, "How To Win Friends and Influence People"
And I need to self educate on this union thing.
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Old 10-18-2016, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by nordo View Post
First, it's not arbitration it's mediation. Second AH and the MEC just got an ALPA Major Contingency Fund grant for info picketing, family awareness and STRIKE prep. MCF funds are grants and not loans; the MEC doesn't have to ever pay it back (what's used). It's a powerful tool.

Sorry not everything goes on your schedule or timeline. Do you volunteer? Show up at LEC or MEC meetings? Vote in council elections? Or just say things here you really don't understand?

Peace out.
What's not arbitration? Are you saying pilot unions and companies don't go to binding arbitration when they can't come to an agreement?
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Old 10-18-2016, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy View Post
What's not arbitration? Are you saying pilot unions and companies don't go to binding arbitration when they can't come to an agreement?
See above.

Halfway would be awesome but virtually all this stuff has been in Hotlines and MEC emails. It's discussed in forums here on APC, so I guess without spoon-feeding it's always going to be a mystery.

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Old 10-18-2016, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by nordo View Post
See above.
I saw above, and I'm familiar with both arbitration and mediation, but your post appears as if you are saying arbitration is not applicable to Mesa pilots when you say "it's not arbitration it's mediation." So again I ask, what's not arbitration?
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Old 10-18-2016, 02:31 PM
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I saw above, and I'm familiar with both arbitration and mediation, but your post appears as if you are saying arbitration is not applicable to Mesa pilots when you say "it's not arbitration it's mediation." So again I ask, what's not arbitration?
When the union meets with the NMB, it's Mediation. When the union meets for grievance resolution it's with an Arbitrator. I guess it's a distinction but with a subtle difference.
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Old 10-18-2016, 02:42 PM
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When the union meets with the NMB, it's Mediation. When we meet for grievance resolution it's with an Arbitrator. I guess it's a distinction but with a subtle difference.
Right. But both are avenues to conflict resolution/contractual agreements and used for labor disputes. Like the 50 seater base pay arbitration we lost. It just sounded like you were saying arbitration isn't applicable to the pilot group.
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Old 10-18-2016, 03:08 PM
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As for education, there was just a big ALPA email laying everything out.

What is ALPA?

Many of our pilots are new to the airline industry and are not familiar with being part of a union. In the next few weeks, we will take the time to discuss what our union does, how it is structured, negotiations, and the Railway Labor Act (RLA). We hope that, by reviewing some key features, it will help our pilots understand how and why things work the way they do. Most of this information can also be found on the ALPA website.

The Air Line Pilots Association, International (ALPA) is the largest airline pilot union in the world and represents more than 54,000 pilots at 31 U.S. and Canadian airlines. Founded in 1931, the Association is chartered by the AFL-CIO and the Canadian Labour Congress. Known internationally as US-ALPA, it is a member of the International Federation of Air Line Pilot Associations.


ALPA provides three critical services to its members:

Airline Safety and Security: ALPA’s founders chose “Schedule with Safety” as their motto, and that theme remains central to the union’s work today. Over its history, ALPA has been a part of nearly every significant safety improvement in the airline industry. The Association has helped to make airline travel the safest mode of transportation in human history. More than 600 working airline pilots volunteer to serve on the local and national safety and security committees that help guide the Association’s work. The union’s aeronautics engineers and safety and security experts provide unparalleled independent analysis on emerging airline safety and security issues, as well as federal and industrial policies. ALPA is routinely granted “interested party” status in most major airline accidents, which means that ALPA accident investigators assist the National Transportation Safety Board and the Transportation Safety Board of Canada during on-site investigations and participate in associated public hearings. The union’s commitment to unbiased, fact-based evaluation of airline safety and security issues has won the Association an unrivaled reputation for excellence throughout the airline industry.

Representation: Over the decades, ALPA pilot groups have negotiated scores of contracts with hundreds of airlines. Today, ALPA staff offers its members the finest financial analysis available, in-depth knowledge of the RLA (the legislation that governs airline pilot contracts), and the legal experience to defend pilot contracts. By leveraging the combined resources of all union members, ALPA is able to bring unmatched expertise to bear on matters affecting its members’ salary, benefits, and working conditions.

Advocacy: ALPA’s staff and pilot volunteers consistently represent pilots’ views to all airline industry decision-makers, including Congress, Parliament, the White House, and federal agencies. In Washington, D.C., and Ottawa, Ont., ALPA lobbyists successfully promote legislation that helps pilots and work to stop policies that harm pilot interests. National officers and pilot representatives are routinely called on to give their expert opinion before legislative committees and other influential governmental bodies.


At all levels of ALPA, pilots make decisions through the democratic process. All decisions start with our pilot groups. Each pilot group consists of all the pilots at a given airline. Pilot groups exercise considerable autonomy in governing their own internal affairs, such as negotiating contracts, enforcing those contracts, and discussing issues of concern with their carriers.


Members of each ALPA carrier are represented by their Local Council status representatives, who make up each pilot group’s Master Executive Council (MEC). Each pilot group consists of one or more Local Councils, which generally correspond with the pilots’ major domiciles. These Local Council status representatives sit on ALPA’s Board of Directors—the Association’s highest governing body. The Local Council representatives elect the officers of each pilot group’ MEC. The chairmen of each MEC comprise ALPA’s Executive Board. ALPA’s Executive Council, which bears fiduciary responsibility for the Association, includes both elected national executive vice presidents and the national officers.


ALPA’s national officers, the president, first vice president, the vice president–administration/secretary, and the vice president–finance/treasurer, guide the Association’s work from its Washington, D.C., headquarters and nearby Herndon, Va., offices.


Mesa’s pilot group is referred to as MAG ALPA (Mesa Air Group). MAG ALPA is broken up into four Local Councils. These are Council 84 West (Phoenix-based pilots), Council 85 Central (Dallas/Ft. Worth-based pilots), Council 87 Northeast (Dulles-based pilots), and Council 88 Southeast 88 (Houston-based pilots).


These are your elected LEC council members:
[Edited for names]


LEC 84:

Chairman AH

Vice Chairman NT

Secretary/Treasurer CG


LEC 85:

Chairman EL

Vice Chairman DO

Secretary/Treasurer XS


LEC 87

Chairman DL

Vice Chairman JC

Secretary/Treasurer TG


LEC 88

Chairman SE

Vice Chairman RV

Secretary/Treasurer MW


Serving as our MAG MEC Officers:

Chairman AH

Vice Chairman CG

Secretary TT

Treasurer DC


Working along with us are our Labor Relations Counsel, SG and LR.


As a new pilot to MAG, you will be an apprentice. There are seven different “classifications” of ALPA membership. There are: Active, Apprentice, Executive, Inactive, Retired, Honorary and Reactivated Member. Sub-categories of membership classifications used by the Membership Administration Department include:


Active Classifications: Active Sick, Executive Active, Grievance Pending.


Inactive Classifications: Executive Inactive, Furlough, Military Leave, Personal Leave, Sick Inactive.


Each classification is associated with specific rights/privileges. Members in the Active classifications who are in Good Standing can vote and hold elected and appointed offices. Members in the Apprentice and Reactivated classifications do not have voting rights and cannot hold an elected office, but may be appointed to certain offices and/or committees. Members in the Inactive and Retired classifications do not have voting rights and cannot hold an elected or appointed office. During your first year, as an Apprentice, you do not pay dues.


Many pilots are unsure of how dues are calculated. Dues are calculated by using Annual Earnings Subject to Dues * 1.9%. This is your Annual Obligated Dues for active members

The earnings subject to dues are calculated as gross income minus the following:


· short- or long-term disability pay (but sick-leave pay is subject to dues and should be included in reported income)

· taxable and non-taxable per-diem

· allowances received for foreign cost of living

· meals and/or moving allowances

· furlough income received under the terms of the employment agreement

· special individual monetary merit award of special individual bonus. This is a very limited exception. For example, it does not include: (a) anything that is a part of, or a substitute for salary; (b) an override above ALPA negotiated rates of pay received by a supervisory/management pilot while acting in that capacity; or (c) a general bonus to all members of an airline

· imputed amount for excess life insurance premiums and/or travel passes

· uniform allowance

· income received in the form of corporate securities

· income received after retirement for vacation

· income received for services to the Company not requiring flight crewman qualifications while on furlough status from a flight crew position, and

· income received from the Company for services in a different job classification while physically unable to perform as a pilot or flight officer.


Total dues are allocated as follows: MEC Account Income (36.5%), LEC Account Income (2%), Administrative and Support Account (58%), and Operating Contingency Fund (3.5%).


· MEC Account—funds used to pay for the operation of each individual MEC including: flight pay loss and expenses of members doing ALPA work, MEC office expenses, staff expenses, MEC meetings, and MEC projects, communication and family awareness events, and contract negotiations.


· Administrative & Support (A&S) Account—funds used to pay for the operation of ALPA’s Toolbox of Services, National Committees, and BOD/Presidential Committees. This account funds the services provided to each member including the expertise and support from the following departments: Representation, Retirement & Insurance, Communications, Legal, Economic & Financial Analysis, Engineering & Air Safety, Membership Administration, Balloting & Local Council Support Services, Strategic Member Development & Resources, Event & Meeting Planning, Information & Technology, Finance and Human Resources. The A&S account also funds the local executive council per capita budgets as well as services and expenses related to Aeromedical, governing body meetings, Leadership Conference training, IFALPA and AFL-CIO affiliations.


· Operating Contingency Fund (OCF)—established as a sinking fund with surpluses carried forward into subsequent years, the OCF is divided into three separate funds:


o The Special Projects Fund (OCF-SP)—used to fund projects and initiatives of special importance to the Association including safety issues and organizing. The OCF-SP may not be used for MEC account funding.

o The Contingency Fund (OCF-CF)—used for MEC account funding or projects of special importance to the Association. MEC Account funding is triggered using a calculation of the MEC Account Level status (adjusted MEC balance/current quarter income). When the adjusted MEC account balance is less than 90% of the MEC current quarter income, to the extent funds are available, the Executive Council shall approve an allocation from the OCF-CF adequate to bring the adjusted MEC account balance to 90% of current quarter income. This allocation can be given in the form of a loan or a grant.

o The Operating Fund (OCF-OF)—used to provide supplemental funding for flight pay loss costs related to the negotiations or extraordinary circumstances to eligible MECs. MECs eligible to receive OCF-OF funding are airlines with less than 1,000 Active and Apprentice members as of June 30 of the prior calendar year or with an average annual prior calendar year Active member airline income for dues purposes of less the $75,000.


We hope that this helps many of our pilots build a base of how the union works. Please look for additional educational materials coming soon.
By the way, glad to hear about the ALPA grant. $2 million - nothing to scoff at. Let's put it to good use.
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Old 10-18-2016, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by deltajuliet View Post
As for education, there was just a big ALPA email laying everything out.



By the way, glad to hear about the ALPA grant. $2 million - nothing to scoff at. Let's put it to good use.
Thanks for posting that, it appears things are starting to change.
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Originally Posted by iFlyRC View Post
Thanks for posting that, it appears things are starting to change.
Believe it when you see it (in your pay check). Tigers don't change their stripes.
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